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Re: (erielack) Erie in Jersey City
On 7/12/2011 11:38 AM, Jim Guthrie wrote:
> Randy writes:
>
>> Having seldom wandered of the "reservation" (it was Jersey City.
>> One didn't go there; one>went THROUGH there) I have no idea where
>> Pavonia was/is. I know there is a Pavonia Avenue.
>
> It was Pavonia 0and the Pavonia ferry) before the Erie laid an inch
> of track there. It reverted<g>.
>>
>> The Erie terminal was on the waterfront, while the Tubes were well
>> inland to the west. At Hoboken, they make a turn to the east to a
>> stub end terminal beneath the Lackawanna platforms, with access to
>> the train concourse at the north end only, as I recall. Now it
>> may be different.
PATH ran under Henderson Ave, now Luis Munoz Marin Blvd. The Pavonia
station was between Washington Street and Newport Streets.
>
> The H&M plans called for a branch to the Erie station (not a
> Terminal -- it was at Milepost 1.0, after all (g>). just north of
> "Erie" at the junction of the Hoboken Route and the 33rd Street
> route (originally to go to Grand Central, with a second branch to the
> East Side, headers for which still house parts of the original
> boring machine) the switch is in a rather large space -- that's
> because this was to be a double crossover, with the "normal" 33rd
> Street route heading toward the Erie Station (it would have turned
> East jsut south of the double crossover).
One of the Hoboken -33rd junctions contained a switch tower and signal
control rooms. i cannot remember which one, the upper or lower.
There were moving walkways like the ones used later at airports between
the PATH station and the Erie station.
I worked as a project manager in Rail Planning in the late 1980s. At
Washington Street was the old Power Plant which I was able to wander
through; also an emergency stairway the rehabilitation of which was the
first project I oversaw.
The upgrading of the signal rooms was one of the last projects I worked
on; I visited Caisson 3 several times.
bob gillis
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