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Re: (erielack) EL THRU LINE PASSENGER TRAINS
I found the EL clean and friendly. The food in the diners low priced, and good. Nothing special, no roast duck, etc. No curtains, or carpets in the coaches, just the lounges (which were gone) and the diners. No leg rests. Yes, foot rests.
I also liked the B&O which had cleaned up it's act. They were starting to lose so much money on the service. They thought they better try and slow this down, and improved the service with Red Circle Day fares. But then the C&O took over. It was the Chesamore and Ohio. Or the Baltapeake and Ohio. They thought if they improved the service some. It would make a good case to get the trains off. Which I guess it did. It really was a hopeless case. They were not looking at $5 gas like today,or touching people between their legs at the airport, like today. Or shoe bombs, underwear bombs etc. People compare flying today with a root canal at a dentist appointment. Of course only 10 to 20 % of your business on a train goes end to end. Everyone else goes somewhere in between. About 10% of your business is from connections which the Erie was fast losing.
Other than the top trains like the Broadway, The Century was gone. The other few end to end no name trains ran around with broken windows in coaches with maybe tape on them . Sinks missing, pictures taken off the wall, and you could see in the dirt where they were! That was my take of the NYC and PRR. The crews pretty much were all rules. The "Buffalo Day Express" a Erie connection at Olean. Had no meal service, the bathrooms smelled. The seats were dusty. It wasn't a express, neither. The equipment was old and worn. All the stations were unrestored museums. This was not "in" with the public at the time. In fact many of these stations today are museums. Lackawanna Lance
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From: Dlw1el2_@_aol.com
To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
Sent: Wed, Dec 29, 2010 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: (erielack) EL THRU LINE PASSENGER TRAINS
here is an interesting read of two guys that rode the PRR into
hicago,towards the back of the current Classic Trains Mag.
ob Bahrs
n a message dated 12/29/2010 10:39:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ananran_@_mymailstation.com writes:
Well, when you consider that EL ended up running one train per day each
ay while PRR, NYC, PC were running multitudes -- and carrying multitudes --
think the "other roads" did pretty well. I rode all of them, at one time
r another, into the Amtrak era and it came down to the people. As long
s the equipment worked and was presentable, the "presentation" was the
rews. It was their choice to accept the chore of convincing the passengers
hat they were on a first-class train. EL people took the pride and the
ime to do it right -- but they only had the two trains (at the end) to worry
bout, while the others had to run several trains on several routes -- New
ork to Chicago, St.Louis, Detroit, Cincinnati, Washington, Boston -- and
ities between -- as well as the New York end of connecting services to/from
lorida. So, it's like comparing apples to fruit salad.
Randy Browni
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was reading the recent DIAMOND where it was written that EL's thru line
rains from Chicago to New York (Hoboken) were considered the best trains
o ride on. I know that president Gregory Maxwell wanted first class
ervice for as long as 5 and 6 ran. The question I have is how bad was the
YC,
RR later PC service compared to EL's.
Happy New Year!
Ed Montgomery
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