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Re: (erielack) More yard questions



Think that was the New York Society of Model Engineers, formerly of 
Hoboken and then of Carlstadt.  I remember visiting there back in the 
early 1960's after the move from Hoboken and seeing the pneumatic retarders.


Ken B.

On 12/17/2010 6:20 AM, Paul Brezicki wrote:
> Bison was not just the most modern EL yard, it was the only modern EL 
> yard. All the rest were old flat yards or manual retarder. I don't 
> believe I've ever seen a scale diagram of Bison. Steve, do you know of 
> anything in the Archives?
>
> An entire hump yard is way too big for most people to model, and as 
> you point out, the physics does not support realistic operation in 
> 1/87 scale. There is/was a model RR club in the NY area (Model RR Club 
> of NJ?) that modeled an operating hump yard. For retarders they used a 
> network of tubes terminating between the rails blowing air. It was 
> ingenius and I admire them for trying, but I've seen a video and what 
> happens is the car careens down the hump at warp speed, destroying any 
> semblance of realism and IMO making the whole exercise rather pointless.
>
> Much more practical is to model a smaller secondary yard located on a 
> mainline that serves a small to medium-size city and/or region, such 
> as Akron, Gang Mills, Binghamton and Scranton. Some trains run 
> through, others stop and s/o p/u cars, and locals and perhaps one or 
> two through trains can be made up. Such facilities can provide endless 
> hours of operating enjoyment.
>
> Paul B
>
>
> From: Bradley Butcher <llyengalyn_@_hotmail.com>
> Subject: (erielack) More yard questions
>
> So while I was looking into Marion yard, Bison yard occured to me. Was 
> Bison the most modern of EL's yard facilities? I see a basic diagram 
> of Bison in EL in color Vol 2. But it has not scale and is kind of 
> hard to read. Does anyone have a lead on an easier to study track 
> diagram? I'm kind of striking out on google. Google keeps leading me 
> to the NS rebuild diagram, not the correct historical connatation.
>
> Still struggleing with myself in my design of an EL HO layout. I think 
> it would be really neat to have a yard included, but they take up so 
> much dang space. Perhaps a justification could be to do "open staging" 
> and have the yard be the staging area at one end and therefore free up 
> more realestate for it.
>
> Might consider making a non-functioning part of it the hump yard as 
> they are pretty neat, but require something like divine intervention 
> to make work on a model as I understand.
>
> Brad Butcher
> ELHS 3900
>
>
>
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