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Re: (erielack) Alco Farewell / Economy Changes



 Thanks Rick, but the " Royal Blue" was the train you're thinking of. The "Banner Blue" was a Saint Louis to Chicago Wabash train.  To my Knowledge the CNJ became Jersey Central Industries. Then I don't know?? Lance




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Subject: Re: (erielack) Alco Farewell / Economy Changes



ance,

 think the CNJ was at one time under B&O control. The  B&O used the CNJ to 
each Jersey City and ran "The Banner Blue" on the CNJ,  if I remember 
orrectly.

ick Fleischer


n a message dated 12/13/2010 1:36:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
ntercityrailpal_@_netscape.net writes:

As a former RF&P shareholder. It was somewhat   like Conrail.   That CSX 
ook the RAIL assets it wanted. Most of the  stock was owned by a Virginia 
etirement investment firm. So the transaction  was done on their terms. The 
ompany continued just like Reading International  and Katy Industries today.  
tock ticker codes RDI and KATY  today.  I didnt' follow what happened to 
F&P, M&STL or CNJ.  Perhaps  taken over or merged up with a non rail 
ompany. The EL is not.  It was  gone completely in 1992. I welcome more 
nformation, like what happened to the  L&HR and CNJ corporation. I know what 
appened 
o the rail assets.  Lackawanna Lance


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rom:  Montgomery, Edward T <ETMontgomery_@_fcps.edu>
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ent: Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:43  am
ubject: RE: (erielack) Alco Farewell / Economy Changes

ell,  
 lot of EL ROW might still be around but if EL had upgraded, I'm sure  
ither NS 
 CSX would have their hands all over the property.  EL  shareholders would 
ave 
en offered a deal they could not refuse - sort of  like what CSX did to 
cquire 
chmond, Fredricksburg 7 Potomac.
d  Montgomery
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om: Tupaczewski, Paul R  (Paul) 
mailto:paul.tupaczewski_@_alcatel-lucent.com] 
nt: Monday, December  13, 2010 11:36 AM
: EL Mail List
bject: RE: (erielack) Alco Farewell /  Economy Changes
 I think you made some good points. The good news in  
oungstown  is that the air is 25% cleaner. The bad news is 
hat  there are no jobs and the  jobs that are left pay just a 
ittle more  than minimum wage. I guess this is the "New 
conomy" or the "New Normal".  
Rick Fleischer
ortland, OH. 
nd since we're an  economy driven now by foreign imports, today's railroads 
re 
imarily  transporting... containers... of goods from China across the US. 
ocal  
siness? What's that?
oing back to the EL, in theory the EL could have  survived as a primarily 
termodal long-hauler. It was already heading in  that direction before CR. 
ot 
 beat the proverbial dead horse, but had  there been the proper "planetary 
ignment of economic factors," there  could still be a vibrant EL today. 
earances for double-stacks? Not a  problem, considering how the other "big 
ads" today spend government  dollars to improve their lines.
h well, such it is to dream....
 Paul
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