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(erielack) Erie Signals
- Subject: (erielack) Erie Signals
- From: Wdburt1_@_aol.com
- Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:18:52 EST
Gordon Davids wrote:
> In Erie practice, much of the automatic block and TCS territory used
> four-indication signaling, where the progression of indications on these
> intermediate signals was "Clear," (Green over Red); "Approach Medium,"
> (Yellow over Green); "Approach," (Yellow over Red); and "Stop and
> Proceed," (Red over Red). "Approach Medium" had a dual purpose. It
> could govern the approach to any signal indicating "Approach" or to an
> interlocking home signal indicating "Clear Medium" or "Medium Approach."
Necessarily, this means that "much of the automatic block and TCS
territory" had two-headed signals.
Plainly not true. Perhaps the reference was to New Jersey suburban
territory?
Except for certain higher-density territories, I believe the use of
Approach Medium on EL was restricted to governing the approach to an interlocking
(Clear Medium or Medium Approach) and was not used to govern the approach
to an Approach signal. I always wondered if the reason for two-headed
signals on the NYC in upstate NY and west was because they had a deluxe,
4-aspect system, or simply because they had so many interlockings that you were
never far from one.
The previous contributions include mention of "double yellow." On EL,
double yellow was sometimes used where the next block ahead was a short block
(I am using plain English here, not C&S-speak). Today, this would be an
appropriate application of Advance Approach (flashing yellow), but back then
there was no such aspect. Instead, the engineer saw two Approach signals
in a row. Examples were the next to the last block signal leaving the old
main line both near Hornell and Cuba. Approaching CB Junction westbound,
for instance, if signal 379-1 in East Cuba displayed Approach it probably
meant that you were getting an Approach at the distant signal located at JC
382.6 (and that you were not lined at CBJ). But it might also mean that the
latter signal was displaying Stop and Proceed. A green light at 379-1
meant an Approach Medium on the distant signal. Same story going east west of
Hornell.
Erie practice, indeed C&S practice generally, is largely undocumented
outside the priesthood, so this discussion is welcome.
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