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RE: (erielack) Fw: EL GON - Welded or riveted? (2)



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>   type of cars rec'd in earlier orders from Greenville and 
> P-S, which were exactly the same
>   except for = the earlier orders, first from Greenville, had 
> end bulkheads and WERE
>   riveted, and the 2nd, from P-S, had end bulkheads and were 
> WELDED. That is probably
>   where you're seeing the difference. It looks like all the 
> P-S built gons were welded. But in
>   many photos, the shot-welding "nubs" almost look like small 
> rivets. The car has to have
>   that "dusted" look to best see the rivets (or weld marks), 
> which makes it a challenge.
>    By the way, the 43700-43799 were Greenville b/h gons, the 
> 44100-44199 were P-S b/h
>   cars, and per above all the 44200 and up were P-S built w/o 
> b/h's..."


Here are some photos of the P-S 44100- and 44200-series cars. 44175 and
44200 are builder's photos, and 44196 is a weathered car. It seems that you
can see the "nubs" in the clean car photos better than the dirty one!

	- Paul





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