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Re: (erielack) NY Harbor Interchange (was: CNJ Interchange)



Ralph,

Thanks for the link. It should be remembered that other than the LIRR, not 
much coal actually got floated around NY. Most was dumped and delivered by 
barge. Going back a few years, even the Poughkeepsie Bridge carried a small 
percentage of New England anthracite, with the combined New Haven Maybrook, 
D&H/B&M, D&H/Rutland and D&H/B&A traffic only eclipsing water traffic in the 
1930s.

Going back further, the Erie, DL&W and the others dumped coal at NY and 
barged it to New England -- in some cases transloading it back to rail at 
Providence, Boston or Salem. There were several reasons for this, icluding a 
desire not to tie up coal hoppers off line with a 
who-knows-when-they'll-be-back style of railroading <g>. One mighjt also 
posit the case that some of the hoppers were not good for interchange 
service (The Erie and NYS&W Side Dumps being a perfect example).

In any case, since Steve posted figure for 1941, here's some meat for the 
bones -- namely tons over the dumpers in the Port in 1941:

Railroad        Location            Anthracite    Bituminous
CNJ              Pier 18, JC      1,022,102    1,726,296
CNJ              Elizabethport         4,161         58,546
CNJ              Port Liberty               47        158,103
DL&W         Hoboken            803,106       402,490
LV                Perth Amboy   1,239,811        57,768
RDG             Port Reading   1,418,664    1,468,572
PRR              South Amboy  1,021,631    2,951,250
NYS&W       Edgewater         894,064          62,725
NYO&W      Weehawken       183,927

It represents about half of the anthracite delivered to the NY area. I don;t 
have good 1941 figures, but in 1940 New Jersey sidings and team tracks 
received 4,293,000 tons; NYC and Long Island received 2,444,000 tons 
delievered by rail, 513,000 tons went to the New Haven, and 297,000 tons 
went to upstate NY by rail.

This gives you an idea of the kind of business the railroads were doing in 
coal in NYC on the eve of war, and you can see there's a relatively small 
percentage being interchanged.

Cheers,
Jim Guthrie
ELHS #1296 


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