Mike, These are D&H cars loaded with ilmenite off the D&H North Creek branch in the Adirondack region of NY state. The ilmenite originated at National Lead Industries mine at Tahawus; acc to my SPV atlas, the NLI Tahawus-North Creek line was operated by D&H. Ilmenite ore is a source for titanium, used for steel hardening. The most direct route would have been D&H-Dupont-LV-Bethlehem (assuming the ore was consigned to Beth Steel), but in the regulated era, circuitous routings were more common since the rate was the same. The move probably didn't involve LV, since after CNJ quit PA, either it or RDG retained TR from P'bug to Bethlehem and Allentown over LV. RDG continued to have access to Beth Steel, and CNJ-RDG continued to operate Jersey City-Harrisburg (Rutherford) trains. So the ilmenite cars would be setoff at LakeJct and forwarded to Bethlehem by JH-1 or JH-7. Perhaps a Lister who also belongs to the Anthracite RR group can provide more details. Prior to 1972 (and assuming the traffic existed then), the routing would have been D&H-W Barre-CNJ-Bethlehem. Another ilmenite move was D&H-Bingo-EL-Y'town-P&LE-Mckees Rocks. One of these cars ended up on Pete Leishman's Milford & Bennington. There was some problem with the car getting stuck on the M&B for an extended period and D&H refusing to pay per diem. After litigation, ownership of the car was transferred to the M&B in lieu of the accumulated per diem. It helped make for an odd-looking stone train, tacked onto a string of ex-CN taconite CH's. Paul B From: Michael DeCarlo <mikedc3_@_optonline.net> Subject: RE: RE: (erielack) EL pushers Does anyone have any more info on these loads, like where they originated? It seems like a strange routing if they were going to Bethlehem PA. I'm wondering why they didn't go the LV in Binghamton, instead of EL\CNJ\LV. Could it be because these cars once moved from Scranton to Easton on the CNJ? The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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