Oops, I apologize for inadvertently including the entire digest in my response to Jim's post. I'm going to blame an insufficient blood caffeine level, and promise to drink at least 2 cups of coffee before responding to future posts (a thinking person's list but not thinking this morning). Here's how it was supposed to look: Jim and List, It's interesting speculation but far enough in the future to make it just that: speculation. Future climate conditions are unpredictable and the current warming could reverse at any time. A more immediate threat is the plan to upgrade the Panama Canal to accomodate Post-Panamax ships. Then it becomes a question of the Big Four maintaining service levels to maintain a significant advantage in transit time. Many more UP-style service meltdowns will divert significant traffic. How much do international containers figure into Big Four traffic? Plenty. Intermodal is now the largest traffic segment in terms of ton-miles and revenue, and at least 70% of current US intermodal traffic is based on trans-ocean. It is the reason for all the current double- and triple-tracking going on out west, and why current production of doublestack cars emphasizes 40' wells. What happens if much of this traffic leaves the rails? It would be a major blow, of course, but in its place may be a large volume of domestic intermodal, diverted off the highways by $10-$15/gal diesel. In any event, it's evident that thorough and ongoing analysis of projected traffic trends gives BNSF and UP enough confidence to continue with substantial capital investment. Will the former Erie Buffalo-NY route benefit from continued growth in intermodal? Possible but unlikely. Its main strategic value is supplementing the largely single-track River Line (former West Shore), but of course one is NS and the other is CSX, and NS is not going to give CSX a competitive advantage by easing its congestion problem, unless forced to by legislative edict. Instead, we'll see the double-tracking of the River Line. Paul B From: JG at graytrainpix <graytrainpix_@_hotmail.com> Subject: (erielack) Northwest Passage threat? Even though this List is dedicated to a railroad that has been gone for 33 years now (a third of a century -- yikes!), I have found it to be a fairly good source of info on current industry trends. Many of you are quite savvy regarding the business of railroading, past AND present. This group is definitely not limited to rivet-counting and reminiscing! (Not that there's anything wrong with rivet counting and reminiscing ...) So, with that in mind, I thought I might solicit some commentary on recent speculation that within the next decade or two, a commercial shipping lane across the Arctic Sea may open up due to warming trends. I recently read that this would save about 4,000 miles from Asian Pacific ports to New York versus the Panama Canal; and, of course, it would eliminate ship size limitations imposed by the Canal. So what might that do to double-stack container traffic on the rails? How much do the big four lines currently depend upon international traffic from Asia to East Coast markets? Could the RR "land bridge" still compete against an all-ship route via the NW Passage? And how does this relate to the EL? Well, think about the impact that the opening of the St. Lawrence Seaway had on the Erie and DL, along with the LV and NYC and PRR and B&O even. Also -- if the consumer economy continues to grow vigorously (despite the current setbacks), one could at least hope that international traffic saturation on the Water Level and Horseshoe Curve routes might eventually make what remains of the EL into an attractive "overflow" route. But if a ship could bring containers from Korea to Port Newark more efficiently, then the former EL might remain a secondary route seeing little traffic. The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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