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List,

I'm no expert on TOFC. But this week I'm scanning in some WNYRHS negatives 
and I just came across this excellent shot of a NYC double-decker at 
Frontier Yard in 1963. It is the time frame under discussion so I offer it 
up for viewing and comment.

Ron Dukarm


> Paul Brezicki wrote:
>> Mike and List,
>>
>> This third series (8700-8799) was the GATC G-85 car, introduced by GATX 
>> in 1959 as a dual-purpose Clejan and conventional TOFC car. Most G-85's 
>> were added to the existing GATC pool of Clejan cars, in which EL (along 
>> with NYNH&H, SP and KCS) participated. It was a sizeable pool in 
>> competition with Trailer Train. So while it's not surprising that EL 
>> would acquire its own conventional 85' flats, since it didn't join TT 
>> until 1963, it is a bit curious that it would acquire 100 cars which were 
>> identical to those in the GATC pool. Some G-85's with NIFX reporting 
>> marks were equipped with steam lines and placed in service on the headend 
>> of EL mail and express trains. By 1964 the Clejan system was defunct, and 
>> EL's G-85's along with GATC's were acquired by TT and became GTTX 
>> 300000-302347.
>
> NIFX 6000-6009 were the ten cars leased by EL from North American Car.
> Were cars with the GTTX prefix, the ones that were later converted to auto 
> racks? Are there models of the G-85 cars available?

> This is good information.  Thanks Paul B. and Paul T. (for posting the 
> photos).
>
> Mike O.


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