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Re: (erielack) Alco vs EMD

Chuck, thanks for providing such an informative and interesting read. It 
really explained alot about the earlier diesel market.

Todd K. Stearns


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From: "Bradley Butcher" <llyengalyn_@_hotmail.com>
To: "EL Mail List" <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 12:10 AM
Subject: RE: (erielack) Alco vs EMD


> Did not the article on Erie FA's recently talk about the flaws in the 244 
> mostly having to do with the GE turbo charger? And that once a new alco 
> turbo was retrofitted they were ok?
>
> Did the 251 make it's debut in the RS11 in 1956?
> I suppose by then alot of railroads had a bad taste for Alco already and 
> they had pretty poor sales after that right up until the end. Sad to say 
> that the RS3 with the flawed 244 was their biggest seller.
>
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 19:13:27 -0700> From: gkazin_@_yahoo.com> Subject: 
>> RE: (erielack) Alco vs EMD> To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net> > The books 
>> I've read state that the 244 was a flawed engine, rushed> into production 
>> at the end of World War II. It had several> mechanical problems that 
>> didn't show up until they had been in> service for a while.> > EMD had 
>> built engines throughout the war, partly for locomotives and> partly for 
>> marine applications - many for the Navy - while ALCo built> other 
>> military products. ALCo WAS NOT ALLOWED to work on locomotives> during 
>> the war, which severely handicapped them when the war ended -> EMD was 
>> already designing improvements to the FT while ALCo was still> 
>> redesigning its prime mover. The 244 had problems, big ones. By the> time 
>> the 251 was designed and in production, some lines were> reluctant to buy 
>> ALCo products and switched to GE, which had> introduced the U25B.
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