Hello, You may or may not have to think outside the box. The W&LE serves a coke plant that takes in trainloads of PRB coal, and the Ohio Central serves a power plant that uses it. That coal gets here to Ohio NS or CSX. The plant uses PRB coal, despite the fact that the OC serves a coal mine on competitor W&LE, and gets there through trackage rights. So you have loaded coal trains going east and west passing each other!!! In 2008 railroading, the truth is often stranger than fiction... New power plants have been built, some along railroads some not. It's impossible to say that it couldn't have happened near a small scrappy competitor to the Conrail disaster of the late 70's. Probability says no, but it's fun for some to speculate. Mike Spinelli Quoting pat.moore_@_att.net: > List... > > And besides, just how many power plants did the EL serve? I know of > the one on the east end (someone please insert the details...was it > on the B&P?), but other than that, did the EL serve any other power > plants? There was a small power plant in Big Flats, NY, which I > think had a spur, but I don't remember seeing much in the way of coal > delivery in the 70s. If they got delivery by rail, it was in small > lots and not entire trains, that is for sure. Perhaps on the west > end? > > Beyond that, I think Paul B. is right about the economics of the > situation. The transport cost east of roughly the Mississippi makes > it too expensive when you already have Appalachian coal nearby. > Yeah, the appalachian stuff might have a higher sulphur content, but > the power plants in the east are already set up to burn the > appalachian stuff anyway. The farthest trip for PRB coal that I know > of was to a Florida Power & Light plant in north Florida. They > barged the stuff down the Mississippi to the Gulf, then over to > Apalachicola, where it was railed up the Apalachicola Northern and > then east on the old SAL through Tallahassee. But, that is getting > way off topic. Sorry. > > I would like to know about power plants, though. > > -pat > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net> >> >> Very little low sulphur coal from Montana and the PRB has ventured east of >> Chicago and the Mississippi River. I'm not aware of any movements into the >> Northeast, but I do know of a couple to the Southeast: a BN-L&N move into >> Tennessee beginning in 1972, and another over NS to a power plant near >> Atlanta beginning in the 1990's. The economics of coal transport generally >> does not support movement over long distances if an alternate source is >> available more locally. I believe all of this coal is used in power plants >> and not in steelmaking. >> >> Paul B >> >> From: "Bradley Butcher" <llyengalyn_@_hotmail.com> >> Subject: RE: (erielack) Coal, Iron Ore and Steel >> >> I have wondered that as well. I the late 70's would powder river coal have >> moved east on the EL? And to where? >> >> I must admit to some limited knowledge, I do not know of powder river coal >> runs that far east right now heh. There are a lot of coal fields still in >> western PA and the Virginias. >> >> >> >> The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List >> http://EL-List.railfan.net/ >> To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html > > > > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List > http://EL-List.railfan.net/ > To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html > Mike Spinelli The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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