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RE: (erielack) Coal, Iron Ore and Steel

Point being if CSX doesn't show up on time and miss the connection, it 
might be a 24 hour delay in the delivery. The mill doesn't have the 
warehousing because for years the trucks ahve been delivering the 
supplies "just in time". So if either of the railroads falter, the 
phone rings at the trucking companies and the railroads lose the 
business a second time.

A railroad could gain that business back by taking care of the 
customer, something Conrail and Chessie were not known for in the 70's 
and 80's. They lost it all in the first place.

Mike Spinelli

Quoting "Wahlstrom, Allen R CIV NAS Corpus Christi, N92" 
<allen.wahlstrom_@_navy.mil>:

> Well since I am the management and will run a monopoly over the 
> trucking industry...I am pretty sure I keep it. (Insert Evil Rail 
> Baron grin)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Spinelli [mailto:sms158_@_uakron.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:20 PM
> To: EL Mail List
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Coal, Iron Ore and Steel
>
> Hello,
>
> It sounds like you're talking about my scenario of an independent EL 
> or "government owned" MARC-EL.
>
> It all depends on the sales department, and on the management.
>
> The salesmen would have had to make the deals, and the manageemnt 
> would have to back them up. Without both you're dead in the water.
>
> With the right sales, they might have gotten into the Honda plant, 
> the plant might have been built on the mainline. Same with the coal, 
> steel, and anything else. Fast forward to 2008 and we're talking 
> methanol plants.
>
> Getting the business is one thing, keeping it is another. The Erie 
> management and everyone on down took the west coast perishable trains 
> serious, and as we saw in the very well done articles in the Diamond, 
> the EL did likewise with the UPS trains. That's the key IMO. The Ohio 
> Central got steel business that was taken by trucks years ago and 
> depends on itself and CSX to run a tight schedule with the train.
> Everyday. And they keep it. The CSX train and the OC train meets at 
> Warwick Oh everyday and they keep the business. Score one for the 
> railroads.
>
> With good management, good sales, and good transportation people, and 
> good lobyists, anything's possible.
>
> Mike Spinelli
>
>
> Quoting Allen Wahlstrom <allen.wahlstrom_@_yahoo.com>:
>
>> I am still planning my layout, seperate from the club, and have run
>> into some operational challenges.
>>
>> I would really like to have Automobile transport as well as steel.
>>
>> Knowing the rust belt happens around the time of EL/CR, would western
>> coal have helped?
>>
>> And after the Honda plant was built, would ErieLack have gotten the
>> transportation contract for raw parts, steel, and transport?
>>
>> With western coal available now, where would it have gone, and where
>> did the iron ore come from to produce the steel.
>>
>> I know this is pretty "what-if" but in trying to keep it as real as
>> possible, I don't want to build an auto spur, that would have gone to
>> Conrail, and or bringing in coal if steel mills would not have needed
>> it. On the coal subject, power plants would have still needed vast
>> amounts of coal there as well...right?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Allen Wahlström
>> ELHS
>>
>>
>>
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