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RE: (erielack) DL&W Signal

Schuyler, et al.,
 
The DL&W, being a highly developed, innovative and progressive railroad, used lower quadrant semaphore signals, unlike that other railroad the Erie.  The lower quadrant signals were only two position, with red and green lenses.  The third hole was typically blanked out or had another red lens placed in it.    The signal is an absolute signal, indicated by the square ends of the blades.  Pointed or fishtail ends would indicate a permissive signal.  In this particular location, perhaps the second large signal on the mast is to give a more specific aspect regarding the Pennsy diamond. But of course, that is mere speculation on my part.
 
The dwarf semaphore signal is very interesting.  I think that the purpose of this might be, as someone else on the list speculated, a telephone train order signal.  When the signal displays stop, as in the photo, the train must stop and the conductor call in to the dispatcher to copy new orders.  Very interesting.  Anyone on the list know if that was, in fact, the application here?
 
Anyone know of any other locations on the DL&W where this dwaf signal was placed with a T-box for such a purpose?  I know that dwarf semaphores were used within terminals, but I've never seen it out on the road like that.  
 
Tom Schmieder> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:49:40 -0500> From: schuyler.larrabee_@_verizon.net> Subject: RE: (erielack) DL&W Signal> To: erielack@lists.railfan.net> > I didn't have much time to look at this before, but I agree that the circle is a telephone symbol.> The crossbar of the "T" is pretty thin, and therefore faint.> > But, these are lower quadrant signals, interesting in itself. But even more, the (presumably) green> lens in the upper signal's spectacle is . . . missing? Clear? And in the lower signal's spectacle,> two are blanked? So it would only be able to display red/stop?> > Plus the dwarf. Interesting signal . . .> > > SGL> > > -----Original Message-----> > From: Joe K. [mailto:joesk@ix.netcom.com]> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:03 AM> > To: EL Mail List> > Subject: Re: (erielack) DL&W Signal> > > > At 11:44 PM 3/2/2008, Ron wrote:> > > > >http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-03-02-08 > > >> > >lv_signal_buffalo.jpg (image/jpeg, 1251x1673 480272 bytes, BF: 4.36 ppb)> > >> > >To all DL&W Signal Specialists:> > >> > >Attached is a photo of a DL&W signal on the Buffalo City Line. Henry> > >yesterday helped me ID this location. In the distance is DM Tower,> > >where the Pennsy crosses the DL&W at grade. We are looking west on> > >the DL&W. The bridge is the LV's line to their downtown depot on> > >Main St in Buffalo. I believe the photo is from the early/mid 50's.> > >Photographer is unknown, although I believe it is a Dick Ganger photo.> > >> > >My questions are:> > >> > >What does the dwarf semaphore blade at the bottom represent?> > >> > >What is the function of the round meter (clock?) on the signal?> > >> > >Ron Dukarm> > > > A guess from out in left field - A telephone train order signal? The> > phone in the box with the circled "T"?> > > > Joe K.> > > > > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List> > http://EL-List.railfan.net/> > To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html> > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List> http://EL-List.railfan.net/> To Unsubscribe: http://Lists!
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