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RE: (erielack) DLW Signal Question



Jim,

> On a related note regarding the topic of signals ... I had 
> heard that some of the signal equipment used to equip the 
> ex-Erie Greenwood Lake line with block signals from Mt. View 
> to Forest Hills in 1962 and 63 came from equipment salvaged 
> from the DL&W main line from West Binghamton to Corning after 
> the 1958 Southern Tier consolidation with the Erie.  Most of 
> the new automatic signals along the Lake were 2-head 
> arrangements, top head having three lights RYG, bottom head 
> having two, RG (each head was always expected to be lit, so 
> there wasn't an "unlit arm" problem). Thus, the system was 
> not using the DLW RYYG wiring setup; but supposedly, some of 
> the signal heads, relays, masts and boxes were recycled from 
> the DL.  The two-light heads on the Lake seemed very similar 
> to the DLW's, but the 3 light heads were more questionable 
> (unless the DLW used 3 light heads on the level-grade lines 
> west of Bingo, where there wasn't  need for a double-approach 
> system??  Showing my lack of Lac!

I thought someone once told me that DL&W-style signals were installed on
the Greenwood Lake in the 60's! I am intimately familiar with exactly
how a DL&W 2-light and 3-light signal head appears, having
stared/analyzed the ones in Boonton for nearly 2 decades, and the
Greenwood Lake signals (ones that come to mind are the eastbound block
signal at Great Notch, the signals immediately west of the Peckman Creek
bridge, and the one in Singac immediately west of the Pompton River
bridge) sure look like DL&W signal heads to me. I've never seen those
type of heads anywhere else on the Erie.

The DL&W had plenty of 3-lamp signal heads, particularly after they
started reducing tracks in multi-track areas. Boonton has a 3-lamp
signal head attached to the Main Street overpass. There were a few
signal bridges through the Poconos with 3-lamp heads on them (I'll try
and post photos later). They weren't nearly as common as the
2-arm/2-lamp signals, but they most certainly did have them.

And this is another reason I chose to model the Boonton Line circa 1975
- - I get the joy of modeling two distinctly different signal systems on
one layout: the implementation on the Greenwood Lake side as described
by Jim above, and the "standard" DL&W implementation on the original
Boonton Line side.

	- Paul

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