RE: (erielack) Signal question - East Lincoln Park

[Gordon Davids <g.davids_@_verizon.net>]

Ed -

You really had me scratching my head on the first message, but the 
second one cleared it up.  EL had no aspect with Flashing Yellow/Green.  
The Red/Flashing Yellow indicated Rule 286, "Medium Approach,  Proceed 
at not exceeding Medium Speed,  prepared to stop at next signal."

That was the best aspect that the EL rules would allow in that case.  
Some railroads with more elaborate signal rules included indications for 
"Medium Approach Medium," (B&O, D&H to name two) or "Medium Approach 
Slow," (NYC) but EL kept it simple.  A train entering the controlled 
siding would be required to proceed prepared to stop at the other end 
unless and until that signal was seen to display an aspect indicating 
that it could proceed (Clear Medium or Medium Approach in this case, or 
Clear Slow in some other cases).

On another note, the "Wye Switch" that Rich refers to at Mountain View 
is termed an "equilateral turnout."  The Erie was among the first to use 
them to advantage, at Howell's Jct and Otisville Tunnel.  Those were No. 
24's, which permitted a maximum speed of 70 mph through either side of 
the turnout.  I don't know if the one at Mountain View was a 20 or a 24, 
but even a 20 would permit 50 mph on either side.

I had forgotten about that equilateral.  If it was No. 20, the 
interlocking itself would be good for 50 mph, although the time table 
speed restriction was 30 mph through the interlocking and around the 
curve, so the Signal Department would have been justified in displaying 
aspects indicating "Clear" through Mountain View to and from the Boonton 
Line.  That would have been necessary if the eastward home signal from 
the siding at East Lincoln Park could display Red/Green, "Clear Medium."

Gordon Davids

Subject: RE: (erielack) Signal question - East Lincoln Park

Here's an interesting signal aspect that I have always wondered about.
EL and DL&W ran one mid-day w/bound leaving Hoboken at 2 and arriving at
Mountain View at 2:39.  Often the signal east of the Pompton River would
show a flashing yellow over green.  The train would run up the siding at
Lincoln Park and then back on the the main track.  Little is said about
this signal aspect.  What did it signify?

Ed Montgomery

Adding to my last note, could the aspect have been Red over Flashing
Yellow?  This was back in the 60s, so I'm not that clear on it but
yellow was flashing.

Ed Montgomery

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