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(erielack) EL baggage cars off their home rails

>Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:37:22 EST
>From: Smtimko_@_aol.com
>Subject: Re: (erielack) EL baggage cars off their home rails
>
>At the risk of being chastised by the List Police, I'd like to 
>comment on the above and the response by both Paul and Dale.  It 
>does have some  connection to the list as it involves Youngstown as 
>the EL and P&LE had  joint service into Youngstown with some trains.
>
>Former PRR-PC-Conrail-NS Pittsburgh area Asst Supt Max Solomon II 
>many  times told me of his first railroad employment tasks which was 
>actually a NYC  Asst TM at Ashtabula, OH.  That is a little known 
>fact as Max lives,  breathes and bleeds PRR, but he worked for a 
>very short time on the NYC.   Max was in charge of supervising the 
>passenger train switching moves at  Ashtabula.  In the very early 
>1960's there was still a nightly train  #277 from Pittsburgh to 
>Youngstown (NYC Station) that continued on as  follows:  NYC #272 YO 
>to Ashtabula, #28 Ash to Buffalo, #371  (NYC-TH&B-CP) Buffalo to 
>Toronto and from Buffalo east the train was still  #28 to Albany and 
>Boston.  Through cars were carried from Pittsburgh to  Ashtabula and 
>Buffalo.  Some cars were removed at Ashtabula went west on  the 
>NYC.  At one time there was a nightly Pullman on the train for 
>Massena  due to Alcoa headquarters in Pittsburgh and the plant in 
>Massena, but that is a  subject for the passenger cars lists, not this list.
>
>During that time period the EL-P&LE had through service Cleveland to 
>Pittsburgh via the Youngstown EL station.  Those trains contained 
>checked  baggage and storage mail.
>
>It is entirely possible that the EL baggage car in question on the 
>original post (en route Toronto) moved 
>Youngstown-Cleveland-(Youngstown)-Pittsburgh-Ashtabula-Buffalo-Toronto. 
>During the late 50's and early 60's I would certainly think that 
>Pittsburgh  could generate an entire carload of mail for Toronto and via.
>
>Just my unsolicited two-cents worth on the topic.
>
>SMT


Thanks Steve for the additional information.  You jogged a memory.  I 
remember reading in an OG about a thru Pit-Massena car and wondering 
why.  You explained it nicely.


Dale 


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