Thanks Steve, that does make sense, and since your post had EL content you don't need to worry about the LP. Paul B From: Smtimko_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (erielack) EL baggage cars off their home rails At the risk of being chastised by the List Police, I'd like to comment on the above and the response by both Paul and Dale. It does have some connection to the list as it involves Youngstown as the EL and P&LE had joint service into Youngstown with some trains. Former PRR-PC-Conrail-NS Pittsburgh area Asst Supt Max Solomon II many times told me of his first railroad employment tasks which was actually a NYC Asst TM at Ashtabula, OH. That is a little known fact as Max lives, breathes and bleeds PRR, but he worked for a very short time on the NYC. Max was in charge of supervising the passenger train switching moves at Ashtabula. In the very early 1960's there was still a nightly train #277 from Pittsburgh to Youngstown (NYC Station) that continued on as follows: NYC #272 YO to Ashtabula, #28 Ash to Buffalo, #371 (NYC-TH&B-CP) Buffalo to Toronto and from Buffalo east the train was still #28 to Albany and Boston. Through cars were carried from Pittsburgh to Ashtabula and Buffalo. Some cars were removed at Ashtabula went west on the NYC. At one time there was a nightly Pullman on the train for Massena due to Alcoa headquarters in Pittsburgh and the plant in Massena, but that is a subject for the passenger cars lists, not this list. During that time period the EL-P&LE had through service Cleveland to Pittsburgh via the Youngstown EL station. Those trains contained checked baggage and storage mail. It is entirely possible that the EL baggage car in question on the original post (en route Toronto) moved Youngstown-Cleveland-(Youngstown)-Pittsburgh-Ashtabula-Buffalo-Toronto. During the late 50's and early 60's I would certainly think that Pittsburgh could generate an entire carload of mail for Toronto and via. The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org To Unsubscribe: http://lists.elhts.org/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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