At 05:33 06-11-2007, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:06:02 -0500 >From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net> >Subject: Re: (erielack) EL baggage cars off their home rails > >I'm a little surprised about this connection, since it involved a transfer >from Babcock St to Central Terminal and an 18-hour layover. 371-322 was the >"Ontarian", connecting at Buffalo with NYC's #57, the Cleveland Limited. >Eastbound counterpart was 321-376, connecting with #16, the Ohio State >Limited. This was the sole remaining NY-Toronto overnight service after the >LV-CN Maple Leaf was DC'd in 1961. Around 1970, this became a daytime run >with an RDC on the Toronto-Buffalo portion (RDC's were popular with both >Canadian transcons). Amazingly, this service survived until the early 80's >when it was DC'd in favor of an Amfleet consist via CN, which reprised the >Maple Leaf name. TH&B's mainline was Hamilton-Welland Ont, and it was >jointly owned by NYC/PC and CP. In the 1980's it became wholly a CP property >when CR divested itself of ex-NYC Ontario lines. I fondly recall trio's of >cream-and-brown GP7's coming through Toronto with the "Starlight" and >"Kinnear". Paul, you'll be interested to know these trains operated in and >out of Agincourt yard. > >Paul B That baggage car could have been bouncing around the NYC for a while and ended up going to Toronto. In the early 1960's there were several overnight NYC-Toronto trains on the Central altho the 371-376 pair were the primary one. By the end of the Central, 371-376 were the survivors. Go back far enough and you'll have thru Cleveland-Toronto, Pittsburgh-Toronto, Boston-Toronto sleepers on the Central. And I too remember trios of brown and cream. Dale The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org To Unsubscribe: http://lists.elhts.org/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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