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RE: (erielack) Lake Cities Questions

Jeff, 

I will add to Paul's comments, but I will not get into the Modeling issues, as that is certainly not my area of expertise.  




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Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:50:04 -0500
From: "Jeff Mutter" <jwmutter_@_comcast.net<about:blank>>
Subject: (erielack) Lake Cities Questions

Okay, you guys have done it!  I've always liked passenger equipment, and all
this talk about the new Rapido passenger cars has prompted me to sway from
my strict era definition and do a bit of  "it's my railroad and I'll run
what I want".

I plan to add some extra life to the Lake Cities and have it run in 1975 on
the Scranton Division in my basement. So, I have a couple of questions:

THE LAKE CITIES made their last runs on January 4 and 5, 1970. 

1.  It sounds as though the Rapido coaches and sleeper are good choices for
that portion of the train. What about the diner?  Is there a decent
representation of one of the diners that ran then -- preferably not brass,
as that can be hard to find and expensive?  I've searched the archives and
found a consist for the train in 1969 and from the final run, and found some
photos in the Morning Sun books.  Looks like most any of the diners running
in 1970 would be appropriate for the final days.

Diners 741, 746, 747, 769 and 770 were in EL service until January 6, 1970. During the last weeks of operation, I did not notice any of the Budd Diners on the train. 

2.  The 1970 westbound consist I found lists one of the coaches as
"Scranton", which I believe indicates service only to Scranton?  What
happened to that coach at Scranton?  Was it removed from the train (the
consist suggests it was on the rear of the train)? Or was it simply closed
and locked and left on the train?

The Scranton coach was operated Hoboken to Scranton and was mainly for employees and deadheads. It was detached at Scranton as it was positioned behind the 10-6. (For more details on this, please see Volume 2 when it is published)

3.  The 1970 consist lists one or two baggage cars but no express cars, and
the 1960's consist lists an express car.  Were there any express
reefers/boxcars left on the train by 1970?

As the train only operated for 5 days into 1970, there were no express reefers/boxcars on the train those last few days. In the last months of operation, Nos. 5 and 6 was normally assigned one 200-221 series Express car. 

For more information, reserve a copy of Erie Lackawanna THROUGH Passenger Service In Color, Volume 2: 1965-1970 which will be published by Morning Sun Books on January 5, 2008. You may log onto www.eldcps.org<http://www.eldcps.org/> and visit our store to order a copy. 

JJBoehner 




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