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Re: (erielack) EL baggage cars off their home rails

I'm a little surprised about this connection, since it involved a transfer 
from Babcock St to Central Terminal and an 18-hour layover. 371-322 was the 
"Ontarian", connecting at Buffalo with NYC's #57, the Cleveland Limited. 
Eastbound counterpart was 321-376, connecting with #16, the Ohio State 
Limited. This was the sole remaining NY-Toronto overnight service after the 
LV-CN Maple Leaf was DC'd in 1961. Around 1970, this became a daytime run 
with an RDC on the Toronto-Buffalo portion (RDC's were popular with both 
Canadian transcons). Amazingly, this service survived until the early 80's 
when it was DC'd in favor of an Amfleet consist via CN, which reprised the 
Maple Leaf name. TH&B's mainline was Hamilton-Welland Ont, and it was 
jointly owned by NYC/PC and CP. In the 1980's it became wholly a CP property 
when CR divested itself of ex-NYC Ontario lines. I fondly recall trio's of 
cream-and-brown GP7's coming through Toronto with the "Starlight" and 
"Kinnear". Paul, you'll be interested to know these trains operated in and 
out of Agincourt yard.

Paul B

From: Mike Oravec <MOEL_@_paonline.com>
Subject: Re: (erielack) EL baggage cars off their home rails

EL 193 was a 50' (BE) ex-troop sleeper (formerly DL&W 2115).  In 1967
they dropped the first digit and it became simply EL 93.

Mike Oravec

Dale and Ev SBC wrote:
> Halfway down is EL 193 going to Toronto via the TH&B.  Once again,
> there's a prototype for just about everything.
>
>> Hello List,
>> The following train consist was recorded at the Toronto,
>> Hamilton&Buffalo Ry. Hunter St. Station in Hamilton, Ont. on Thurs.
>> Nov.10, 1966
>> NYC/TH&B Train No.371 7 cars Arrival: Buffalo -Welland to Hamilton
>> CPR Train No.322 7 cars Departure: Hamilton - Toronto
>> Cars in order from Engine: Point of Shipment: Final Destination:
>> ERIE-LACK 193 Bagg.Exp. Buffalo Toronto
>> NYC 7408 HW Bagg. " "
TH&B 54 HW Bagg. " "
>> TH&B 75 HW Coach " "
>> NYC Onondaga Valley (10104) 10Rmt.6Dbr. LW Sleeper NewYork "
>> NYC Keene Valley (10129) 10Rmt.6Dbr. LW Sleeper " "
>> NYC 2610 LW Coach " "


 


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