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Re: (erielack) Re: Road Freights Brier Hill

In a message dated 10/9/2007 8:53:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
graytrainpix_@_hotmail.com writes:

1.)  Did they ever route a fast freight (74s, 97s, 98s, 99s, 100s)  down the 
First via Youngstown for traffic reasons, say if a 100 would  otherwise face 
a run of westbounds on the cut-off?  I'm sure it  happened for derailments 
and what-not, but I wondered if it was considered  a regular traffic option.
Jim

Yes it did happen---Photo on page 31 of Trackside around Youngstown  with 
Dave McKay by SMT shows an eastbound ore drag passing the Youngstown  Terminal 
Building with a westbound piggyback train passing it.  I would say  probably 
once ever other day one of the 98 99 or 100 sections would operate 1st  
Sub-Division account opposing traffic.  Usually the NE-74 and NY-74's were  kept on the 
2nd Sub-Division as they were super hot trains.



2.) Did any of the road freights headed for Meadville and  points east ever 
stop at SN to set out small blocks for First sub points  like Niles and Brier 
Hill, then and then proceed via the cut-off?  If  so, did they shuttle switch 
jobs out to SN to retrieve such cars, or wait  for the next 78 or 94 to take 
them?
Again, yes it did happen but not frequently.  Trains that had traffic  for 
Brier Hill had a reason to operate that way---they also picked up at Brier  
Hill.  I do recall train 94 having 10 or 12 cars for Brier Hill and we  would need 
the power in Meadville or the freight in Meadville to make a Buffalo  train 
connection, the 94 would cut at SN Jct and pull the Brier Hill cars into  the 
EB siding and go 2nd Sub-Division.  Cars were usually forwarded on 156  to 
Brier Hill.  Brier Hill switch jobs did not leave Brier Hill switching  limits 
(Avon). First of all, they were too busy and second of all, they got  extra pay 
for leaving the yard limits.  Additional straight time pay--so if  the trip 
took three hours, they entire crew got three hours additional pay and  the first 
out crew road extra list would also be able to collect a full days  penalty.  
Costly!



3.) Sorry, one more -- east of Meadville, did the EL keep  running the RC-98 
and MF-74 up to Buffalo thru early 1976?  I would  imagine that after April 
76, Conrail had no need for those  runs.
Yes, they ran right up to Conrail day-one and possibly for a while after  
day-one.  I am not certain when they came off.  Perhaps Mr. Heckman  could help 
out.
 
SMT






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