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RE: (erielack) Hoboken Shore Box Cars, Hoboken, NJ Oct 1970

> Steve, Paul and List,
> 
> Now there's some interesting photos. Look at that tight curve 
> under the business car! Looks like it belongs on an 
> interurban line.

Funny you should mention that - Hoboken Shore started off as an electric
line. Look at my site (http://hbs.railfan.net) for more "tight curve" shots.



>No wonder HSRR used a 44-tonner, you 
> couldn't get anything bigger through there.

They actually had boxcab diesels in their very early years that were a bit
bigger than the 44-tonners. 53' gons made it around their turns, but that's
about as long as they could feasibly go.


> Neat 
> juxtaposition of brand new CTI container and ancient New Hope 
> & Ivyland boxcar. The black HSRR boxcars are not used in 
> interchange, but appear quite servicable otherwise. What were 
> they used for, storage? Two of them appear to be old PRR 
> wagontops.

That string of HBS (and those are the AAR reporting marks the railroad used,
for the record) boxcars appear to just have been painted and haven't had
their capacity/reporting mark details added yet. I have photos in my
collection of these in revenue service. The color wasn't black, it was a
VERY dark blue. The square Hoboken Shore logo was actually a Scotchlite
decal.

Note the NHIR and NYSW boxcar shots - from the research I did on my NYS&W
book, it appears that all these cars (HBS, NYSW, NHIR) were ancient cars
that were given "quicky" overhauls to get them on the road and earn some
revenue with what was left in their revenue service lives by a company named
"Bonanno Park." These cars only lasted 3-4 years before they were retired.
This was all part of the 1970s fad of "shortline leased cars."

And yes, Hoboken Shore (and NYS&W for that matter) did get some 50'
round-roof (and even 40' round-roof cars), with the 50' cars actually of NP
heritage rather than PRR.




> Sadly, I recall someone saying it's all gone now.

Other than some embedded rail in some roads, yes, all gone. :(

	- Paul



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