You didn't mention the exact timeframe, but by the 1980's, Conrail, like most other Class 1's, was focused on large customers and wholesale transportation. So if you were a steel mill, coal mine, auto manufacturer, freight forwarder/consolidator or containership line, you would have been well looked after. Conrail simply didn't maintain a sufficient staff of sales people or freight agents to service the shipper of one or a few carloads. There isn't enough profit in that, particularly in the shorthaul move you offered, so they really didn't want your business and behaved accordingly. The retail carload business has become the domain of shortlines and regionals. In future, it would be nice if you could include your first name in your post. Paul B From: secbyte_@_ptd.net Subject: Re: (erielack) Water bottles... Sometimes I wonder if this would be true. I remember having a business in Dover along the old CNJ line on North Salem St. and it was next to impossible to get the railroad to add me as a customer. First of all it was like pulling teeth to get to the people I needed to talk to in the first place and then it was one excuse after another to get things shipped out by boxcar. We spoke to the M&E and to Conrail. We were sending huge loads to a recycling plant in Mass and they would have preferred material shipped by boxcar but it got to be such a project that we hired a trucking company to service us. It was like they just did not want any new business. In other industry you loose customers and you develop new ones. It seemed to me that the RR was only interested in burning the ones they had up and not developing new ones. The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org To Unsubscribe: http://lists.elhts.org/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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