In a message dated 8/6/2007 11:05:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, MDelvec952_@_aol.com writes: I no longer have any DL&W or EL employee's timetables. Can anyone tell me if anywhere in DL&W or El official operating documents there is any reference to "Bridge 60"? Everyone (including Tabor refers to it by that nomenclature. Also says it was so called becaseu it was 60 miles from the Delaware River (which isn't correct). The only engineering reference I can find calls it "Bridge 133.82", which is the normal way of railroads identifying bridges. Any comments? Hi Chuck, Having never heard a real answer to that question, I researched this years ago and found that the Bridge 60 moniker dates to DL&W's biblical times (1853) when the mileposts started at Great Bend. DL&W got to Binghamton over the Erie. After Sam Sloan joined the DL&W late in the Civil War years and had risen to president late in 1867, completing his own line to Binghamton (ca. 1869-1870), the mileposts began at the Susquehanna River which is almost exactly 60 miles from the Lackawanna River (before the Nicholson Cut-off was built). A year or two after the Civil War the Lackawanna River bridge in Scranton was being upgraded from wooden trestle to stone arch; it is likely during this project that it got the name Bridge 60. In Taber the 1857 timetable shows Scranton 48 miles from Great Bend, and the 1878 issue shows Scranton station to be 62 miles from Binghamton station, confirming the mileage. In both timetables and the others of similar vintage at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania the mileposts begin at the north end. I've never seen Bridge 60 in a modern employee timetable and don't recall seeing it in a bulletin order. So, Chuck, since you grew up in Scranton, do you remember calling it Bridge 60, or hearing trainmen call it that, in the 1940s and '50s? If not, could it be possible that Taber-the-father had heard the term from the early railroaders he knew and TTTIII used it in his book enough to make it stick today? Mike Del Vecchio Just a side note that may tie in to Mikes theory. Under General Instructions 10 A in ETTs up to and including # 58 dated Sept 28 1929 it refers to the old Lackawanna Susquehanna River Bridge at Binghamton as Bridge Number 2. Bob Bahrs ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org To Unsubscribe: http://lists.elhts.org/erielackunsub.html ------------------------------
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