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Re: (erielack) EL around Youngstown
I remember working at Ferrona yard in 1960 or so and we had a Baldwin
switcher with orders to go 'up the hill' with 10 cars of ore to the
shenango furnace on a hill just above the yard. It wa a hard pull and the
old baldwin was down on its' knees at the top where we spotted the ore and
gathered up a few MT hoppers & did some switching for the trip back down.
There was 1 or 2 blast furnaces up there and they were mainly served by the
PRR, but the ERIE had this one track up the hill. One job I NEVER worked out
of Ferrona was the Newcastle run, but that was held by some old-timers.
Regards,
Walt Smith
>From: bob gillis <robertgillis_@_verizon.net>
>Reply-To: "EL Mail List" <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
>To: EL Mail List <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
>Subject: Re: (erielack) EL around Youngstown
>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:52:16 -0500
>
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>
>Smtimko_@_aol.com wrote:
>
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>>urr304_@_alltel.net writes:
>>
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>>>The original C&MV line into Sharpsville went up an incline east of
>>>Ferrona
>>>Yard area towards Sharpsville and was on a higher level. This line
>>>remained
>>>active into mid-20th Century, I am sure S.Timko has better information.
>>
>
>What is the C&MV? Corry and Mahoning Valley or Clarkboro and Mahoning
>Valley
>
>If the line from Pymatuming through Latimer to Leavitsburg was the original
>A&GW min line, why di it make the sharp turn at Pymatuming. there is a
>creek heading west at Victoria Station that leads to Organgeville.
>
>>
>>I believe the original line to Sharpsville became known as the Hill
>>Track. It was the method that EL used to access Shenango Incorporated
>>with hot metal trains as well as inbound and outbound shipments. After
>>Conrail, the Hill Track was removed and the hot metal trains and inbound
>>sand and scrap and outbound ingot moulds used the old E&P line from
>>Sharpsville to a point where a connection with the EL's New Castle Branch
>>was built. This location was known as The Pole Connection. The final
>>construction on the connection was delayed for months by the utility
>>company dragging its feet on the relocation of a pole. Thus, named by
>>former Ferrona Yard trainman (and later Conrail VP-Transportation) Gary
>>Speigel.
>>
>
>The SPV Atlas shows the Ex Erie line in service in 1998 between Ferrona
>and Clarksboro. South of Ferrona there are three lines, (1) the former
>Erie line, (the Hill Track?), (2)a line that diverges off the Erie and goes
>under to Sharon and Budd and turns west into a yard and on to Bentley (old
>LSMS) an (3) a connection to the PRR (ex E&P). From Clarksboro to where
>line 3 connects PC had abandoned the old PRR/E&P?.
>
>I do not remember any of this part of the Erie line as I guess i was in
>loco 750 by the diesel engines taking readings
>
>bob gille
>
>
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