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RE: (erielack) West End (2)

Subject: RE: (erielack) West End (2)
From: Mike Spinelli <idrsspin_@_yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 06:18:09 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-W8E0EF67A2D3EF016310A786050_@_phx.gbl>
I need to correct myself, Pennsy rails ran only as far
as Newark, Ohio. They had rights over the B&O from
Newark to Columbus. There are no rights anymore as the
former Panhandle and the former B&O from Columbus to
Cambridge is all Ohio Central now.

Mike

- --- Michael Connor <mjconnor_rr_@_hotmail.com> wrote:

> All
> The Pittsburgh-Columbus portion of the PRR was
> cursed to c. 1950 with a number of very close
> clearance tunnels in the 30 miles or so west of the
> Ohio River.  The PRR bypassed all of them except
> Gould Tunnel which was ultimately single-tracked and
> slightly improved.  It was a multi-million dollar
> project, all privately funded, and earned the
> Federal Government's lasting contempt, as did most
> railroad investments.
> MJC
> 
> 
> 
> > From: rbehrendt_@_columbus.rr.com> To:
> idrsspin_@_yahoo.com; erielack@lists.elhts.org>
> Subject: Re: (erielack) West End (2)> Date: Fri, 27
> Oct 2006 19:56:15 -0400> > Mike,> I'm not aware of
> any tunnels being daylighted on the Pan Handle in
> OH, as > Gould Tunnel in eastern OH still survives,
> and is seen as an impediment in > not being able to
> handle double-stack traffic.> > The PanHandle was
> torn out in WV and PA, as well as west of Columbus,
> but as > you say, is still in service under Ohio
> Central from Mingo Jct. westward > into Columbus -
> also occassionally handles some occasional NS >
> run-through/detour traffic...> > Rich Behrendt> ELHS
> #384> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike
> Spinelli" <idrsspin_@_yahoo.com>> To: "EL List"
> <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>> Sent: Thursday, October
> 26, 2006 10:03 PM> Subject: Re: (erielack) West End>
> > > > Do you mean they used the PC Ft Wayne line in
> lieu of the EL?> >> > The Panhandle ran from
> Pittsburgh through Columbus, more or less. It w!
>  as > > another line where millions of dollars was
> spent rehabbing, new signal > > system, daylighting
> tunnels, etc only to be downgraded to a single track
> > > branch and then put up for abandonment. The
> state bought it and the Ohio > > Central operates
> it.> >> > In both cases, millions of dollars were
> flushed right down the toilet.> >> > Mike> >> > Walt
> Fles <eriewalt_@_hotmail.com> wrote:> > What is sad
> also is that Conrail decided to utilize the PC
> panhandle line > > in> > lieu of the EL (they
> interchanged in North Judson). In 1983 then this PC>
> > line was abandoned.> > ----- Original Message
> ----- > > From: "Philip Albano"> >> > To: "EL List">
> > Cc: "Schuyler Larrabee"> > Sent: Thursday, October
> 26, 2006 8:31 AM> > Subject: RE: (erielack) West
> End> >> >> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message----->
> >>>From: Schuyler Larrabee> >>>Sent: Oct 25, 2006
> 9:10 PM> >>>To: 'Philip Albano'> > ,
> erielack_@_lists.elhts.org> >>>Subject: RE: (erielack)
> West End> >>>> >>>> >>> On Behalf Of Philip!
>   Albano> >>>>> >>>> The EL trustees eventually sold
> the line t!
>  o L.B. F
> oster for> >>>> over $17 million. L.B. Foster
> removed the track and ballast> >>>> in 1981.> >>>>
> >>>And shortly after that, there was an article in a
> magazine (Railway Track> >>>& Structures?) which>
> >>>covered that removal. It commented that it was a
> very well built line, in> >>>good shape, and in
> much> >>>better condition than either the former PRR
> or the former NYC.> >>>> >>>It was sort of hard to
> read that!> >>>> >>>SGL> >>>> >>> >> Thanks for
> adding that Schuyler and very true. The former PRR
> west of> >> Crestline was in terrible shape and
> Conrail spent millions in the late> >> 1970's on
> trackwork. At times there were as many as 4
> temporary block> >> stations with operators in
> service at various locations copying train> >>
> orders and crossing trains over to run against the
> current of traffic> >> around trackwork. Conrail
> could have saved money by installing a> >>
> connection at Mansfield, Ohio where both roads
> crossed and used the EL> >> main to go to Chicago
> and let the!
>   PRR go.> >>> >> As per my post of yesterday,
> ultimately the West End of the EL was worth> >> more
> in scrap value than as an operating railroad. Sad.>
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