RE: (erielack) West End (2)

[Michael Connor <mjconnor_rr_@_hotmail.com>]

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The Pittsburgh-Columbus portion of the PRR was cursed to c. 1950 with a number of very close clearance tunnels in the 30 miles or so west of the Ohio River.  The PRR bypassed all of them except Gould Tunnel which was ultimately single-tracked and slightly improved.  It was a multi-million dollar project, all privately funded, and earned the Federal Government's lasting contempt, as did most railroad investments.
MJC



> From: rbehrendt_@_columbus.rr.com> To: idrsspin@yahoo.com; erielack@lists.elhts.org> Subject: Re: (erielack) West End (2)> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:56:15 -0400> > Mike,> I'm not aware of any tunnels being daylighted on the Pan Handle in OH, as > Gould Tunnel in eastern OH still survives, and is seen as an impediment in > not being able to handle double-stack traffic.> > The PanHandle was torn out in WV and PA, as well as west of Columbus, but as > you say, is still in service under Ohio Central from Mingo Jct. westward > into Columbus - also occassionally handles some occasional NS > run-through/detour traffic...> > Rich Behrendt> ELHS #384> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Spinelli" <idrsspin@yahoo.com>> To: "EL List" <erielack@lists.elhts.org>> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:03 PM> Subject: Re: (erielack) West End> > > > Do you mean they used the PC Ft Wayne line in lieu of the EL?> >> > The Panhandle ran from Pittsburgh through Columbus, more or less. It was > > another line where millions of dollars was spent rehabbing, new signal > > system, daylighting tunnels, etc only to be downgraded to a single track > > branch and then put up for abandonment. The state bought it and the Ohio > > Central operates it.> >> > In both cases, millions of dollars were flushed right down the toilet.> >> > Mike> >> > Walt Fles <eriewalt@hotmail.com> wrote:> > What is sad also is that Conrail decided to utilize the PC panhandle line > > in> > lieu of the EL (they interchanged in North Judson). In 1983 then this PC> > line was abandoned.> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Philip Albano"> >> > To: "EL List"> > Cc: "Schuyler Larrabee"> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:31 AM> > Subject: RE: (erielack) West End> >> >> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >>>From: Schuyler Larrabee> >>>Sent: Oct 25, 2006 9:10 PM> >>>To: 'Philip Albano'> > , erielack@lists.elhts.org> >>>Subject: RE: (erielack) West End> >>>> >>>> >>> On Behalf Of Philip Albano> >>>>> >>>> The EL trustees eventually sold the line t!
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oster for> >>>> over $17 million. L.B. Foster removed the track and ballast> >>>> in 1981.> >>>> >>>And shortly after that, there was an article in a magazine (Railway Track> >>>& Structures?) which> >>>covered that removal. It commented that it was a very well built line, in> >>>good shape, and in much> >>>better condition than either the former PRR or the former NYC.> >>>> >>>It was sort of hard to read that!> >>>> >>>SGL> >>>> >>> >> Thanks for adding that Schuyler and very true. The former PRR west of> >> Crestline was in terrible shape and Conrail spent millions in the late> >> 1970's on trackwork. At times there were as many as 4 temporary block> >> stations with operators in service at various locations copying train> >> orders and crossing trains over to run against the current of traffic> >> around trackwork. Conrail could have saved money by installing a> >> connection at Mansfield, Ohio where both roads crossed and used the EL> >> main to go to Chicago and let the PRR go.> >>> >> As per my post of yesterday, ultimately the West End of the EL was worth> >> more in scrap value than as an operating railroad. Sad.> >>> >>> >> PA> >>> >> The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List> >> Sponsored by the ELH&TS> >> http://www.elhts.org> >>> >> >> > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List> > Sponsored by the ELH&TS> > http://www.elhts.org> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------> > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com> >> > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List> > Sponsored by the ELH&TS> > http://www.elhts.org> >> >> > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: > > 10/27/2006> >> > > > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List> Sponsored by the ELH&TS> http://www.elhts.org
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