Re: (erielack) West End (2)

["Rich Behrendt" <rbehrendt_@_columbus.rr.com>]

Mike,
I'm not aware of any tunnels being daylighted on the Pan Handle in OH, as 
Gould Tunnel in eastern OH still survives, and is seen as an impediment in 
not being able to handle double-stack traffic.

The PanHandle was torn out in WV and PA, as well as west of Columbus, but as 
you say, is still in service under Ohio Central from Mingo Jct. westward 
into Columbus - also occassionally handles some occasional NS 
run-through/detour traffic...

Rich Behrendt
ELHS #384
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Spinelli" <idrsspin_@_yahoo.com>
To: "EL List" <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: (erielack) West End


> Do you mean they used the PC Ft Wayne line in lieu of the EL?
>
>  The Panhandle ran from Pittsburgh through Columbus, more or less. It was 
> another line where millions of dollars was spent rehabbing, new signal 
> system, daylighting tunnels, etc only to be downgraded to a single track 
> branch and then put up for abandonment. The state bought it and the Ohio 
> Central operates it.
>
>  In both cases, millions of dollars were flushed right down the toilet.
>
>  Mike
>
> Walt Fles <eriewalt_@_hotmail.com> wrote:
>  What is sad also is that Conrail decided to utilize the PC panhandle line 
> in
> lieu of the EL (they interchanged in North Judson). In 1983 then this PC
> line was abandoned.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Philip Albano"
>
> To: "EL List"
> Cc: "Schuyler Larrabee"
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:31 AM
> Subject: RE: (erielack) West End
>
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Schuyler Larrabee
>>>Sent: Oct 25, 2006 9:10 PM
>>>To: 'Philip Albano'
> , erielack_@_lists.elhts.org
>>>Subject: RE: (erielack) West End
>>>
>>>
>>> On Behalf Of Philip Albano
>>>>
>>>> The EL trustees eventually sold the line to L.B. Foster for
>>>> over $17 million. L.B. Foster removed the track and ballast
>>>> in 1981.
>>>
>>>And shortly after that, there was an article in a magazine (Railway Track
>>>& Structures?) which
>>>covered that removal. It commented that it was a very well built line, in
>>>good shape, and in much
>>>better condition than either the former PRR or the former NYC.
>>>
>>>It was sort of hard to read that!
>>>
>>>SGL
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for adding that Schuyler and very true. The former PRR west of
>> Crestline was in terrible shape and Conrail spent millions in the late
>> 1970's on trackwork. At times there were as many as 4 temporary block
>> stations with operators in service at various locations copying train
>> orders and crossing trains over to run against the current of traffic
>> around trackwork. Conrail could have saved money by installing a
>> connection at Mansfield, Ohio where both roads crossed and used the EL
>> main to go to Chicago and let the PRR go.
>>
>> As per my post of yesterday, ultimately the West End of the EL was worth
>> more in scrap value than as an operating railroad. Sad.
>>
>>
>> PA
>>
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