RE: (erielack) AN EDUCATION PAMPHLET FOR LACKAWANNA EMPLOYEES ON THE ATOMIC B...

["Fred Stratton" <erief7_@_msn.com>]

That's right Frank. A million years from now it won't matter.





Fred Stratton

MP. 7.2 NS Asheville line

Salisbury, NC


From: cbschneider_@_att.net
Reply-To: cbschneider_@_att.net
To: Frank P Adams <frank.p.adams_@_verizonbusiness.com>, eljefe3126@netscape.net, Njricky2@aim.com, Pat_McKnight@nps.gov, erielack@lists.elhts.org
Subject: RE: (erielack) AN EDUCATION PAMPHLET FOR LACKAWANNA EMPLOYEES ON THE ATOMIC B...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:23:59 +0000
>Frank,
>Thanks for posting that very interesting bit of information, I enjoyed reading it. To others who might complain about non-EL content I would suggest that since the original post was DL&W related it is not really a serious transgression of list policy to have a few informative responses following. This is just my opinion and I of course can't speak for Paul T. Thank you again.
>
>Charles Schneider
>
>-------------- Original message from Frank P Adams 
<frank.p.adams_@_verizonbusiness.com>: --------------
>
>
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Thanks, on the money comments. The cold war being my previous career, here's
> > some information on Damage to Transportation Equipment - Railroads from "The
> > Effects of Nuclear Weapons" (Glasstone and Dolan, 1977, 3rd edition, signed
> > "To Frank, with Best Wishes Edward Teller")
> >
> > 5.92 Railroad equipment suffered blast damage in Japan and also in tests in
> > Nevada. Like motor vehicles, these targets are primarily drag sensitive and
> > damage can not be directly related to overpressure. At peak overpressure of
> > 2 pounds per square inch from a kiloton range weapon, an empty wooden boxcar
> > may be expected to receive relatively minor damage. At 4 psi overpressure,
> 
> the damage to a loaded boxcar would be more severe (references a picture).
> > At peak overpressure of 6 psi the body of an empty wooden boxcar weighing
> > about 20 tons was lifted off the trucks, i.e. the wheels, axles, etc,
> > carrying the body and landed about 6 feet away. The trucks themselves were
> > pulled off he rails apparently by the brake rods connecting them to the car
> > body. A similar boxcar at the same location loaded with 30 tons of
> > sand-bags remained upright although the sides were badly damaged and the
> > roof demolished, the car was capable of being moved on it's own wheels. At
> > 7.5 psi peak overpressure, a loaded boxcar of the same type was overturned
> > and at 9 psi completely demolished.
> >
> > 5.93 A diesel locomotive weighing 46 tons was exposed to 
a peak overpressure
> > of 6 pounds per square inch while the engine was running. It continued to
> > operate normally after the blast in spite of damage to windows and
> > compartment doors and panels. There was no damage to the railroad track.
> >
> >
> > Frank
> > Colorado Springs, CO
> > ELHTS #52 / ELHS # 2116
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org [mailto:erielack-owner@lists.elhts.org]
> > On Behalf Of eljefe3126_@_netscape.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:49 PM
> > To: Njricky2_@_aim.com; Pat_McKnight@nps.gov; erielack@lists.elhts.org
> > Subject: Re: (erielack) AN EDUCATION PAMPHLET FOR LACKAWANNA EMPLOYEES ON
> > THE ATOMIC B...
> >
> > All,
> >
> 
> Actually, the information in this pamphlet is extremely accurate. Just
> > about every single suggestion given would save lives and reduce damage in
> > the event of a nuclear attack. The only information in it that is dated is
> > the bit about the 4,200 foot deadly radius and half-mile range of total
> > destruction. However, in December of 1950, the hydrogen bomb had not yet
> > been invented, and the information in the pamphlet was true for just about
> > every weapon that had been fielded to that point.
> >
> > As it was addressed to railroad employees, I'm surprised that more space
> > wasn't given to the effects of atomic weapons on rolling stock and track
> > structures. Rolling stock oriented end-on to the blast weathers the effects
> > as well as anything short of a concrete 
bunker. But even rolling stock
> > oriented side-on to the blast is surprisingly resistant.
> >
> > And yes, radiation does pass through dirt or walls. However, it is
> > attenuated by its passage, to the point where a few feet of earth can mean
> > the difference between life and death.
> >
> > I miss the EL (list content). But I don't miss the Cold War.
> >
> > Jeff Larson
> > ELHS #2683
> >
> >
> >
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