Re: (erielack) Marion Intermodal Terminal

["Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>]

Rich and List,

Thanks for clearing that up. Evidently the yard job fetched the loads for 
Second 100 which then picked them up in the yard. I went back and reviewed 
my trainsheets and I now see the reason for the 40 min stop: it was a time 
cushion. Actual elapsed time was often 15-35 min, so this train frequently 
picked up 5-25 min at Marion.

Paul B

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R.M."Rich" Tubbs" <rich_@_richtubbs.net>
To: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>; "Erie Lackawanna List" 
<erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: (erielack) Marion Intermodal Terminal


> Paul and List,
>
> I don't ever recall 2ndNY (or any other eastbounds for that matter) making 
> such a move. Between us and the PC, there was just too much traffic to tie 
> up the joint trackage like that. I do remember the "yard job"going to the 
> UPS and getting outbound loads and empties which were taken to the yard 
> and presumably spotted on the manifest trains during crew change, etc. The 
> only train that was allowed to tie up the railroad was the CX99. Marion 
> cars were (usually) spotted on the head end. The CX99 would stop east of 
> the Scioto switch, the power would cut off and pull up to clear the 
> switch. The yard job, which was waiting on the spur would then open up, 
> pull out, back up to the train and get the Marion consist and then push 
> them back into the spur to the UPS facility. The Croxton power would then 
> return to his train and head for the Marion yard. This move usually only 
> took about a half hour. As for the wye, it was a remnant of the war years 
> when both the Erie and the PRR had access to the ordinance plant. If I 
> recall correctly, the PRR side of the wye had been pulled up long before 
> the EL started servicing the UPS. Probably our gain for I'm sure the guys 
> in black (N&W) would have jumped on that opportunity had they the chance.
>
> Rich Tubbs
> Marion OH
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
> To: "R.M."Rich" Tubbs" <rich_@_richtubbs.net>; "Erie Lackawanna List" 
> <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Marion Intermodal Terminal
>
>
>> Rich,
>>
>> Thanks for clearing that up; I didn't know the GSA had TWO facilities in 
>> Marion. EL's own TOFC facility was off Kenton St on the northeast side of 
>> the yard. It had a capacity of 6 long flats but I doubt it saw much use. 
>> In EL in Color there is a hand drawn diagram that shows the switch at the 
>> west end of the ordinance facility siding (trailing point for WB's); the 
>> area is labelled "Government Storage Area-GSA". This arrangement probably 
>> explains why 2-NY-100 was allowed 40 min at Marion, double the time for 
>> all other stops of UPS trains: presumably the power had to cutoff at the 
>> yard and run wrong main to pickup the cars, then take them back to the 
>> train. Is it possible a wye was installed here for the UPS operation?
>>
>> Paul B
>
> 


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