Rich, Thanks for clearing that up; I didn't know the GSA had TWO facilities in Marion. EL's own TOFC facility was off Kenton St on the northeast side of the yard. It had a capacity of 6 long flats but I doubt it saw much use. In EL in Color there is a hand drawn diagram that shows the switch at the west end of the ordinance facility siding (trailing point for WB's); the area is labelled "Government Storage Area-GSA". This arrangement probably explains why 2-NY-100 was allowed 40 min at Marion, double the time for all other stops of UPS trains: presumably the power had to cutoff at the yard and run wrong main to pickup the cars, then take them back to the train. Is it possible a wye was installed here for the UPS operation? Paul B - ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.M."Rich" Tubbs" <rich_@_richtubbs.net> To: "Erie Lackawanna List" <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>; <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 1:20 PM Subject: (erielack) Marion Intermodal Terminal > On Monday, Sept 04, Paul Brezicki stated.... > > "There's an interesting sidebar in this month's Trains article about KCS > that describes operations at what may be the newest intermodal terminal in > the US: Marion Industrial Center, the former GSA facility that was the > location of EL's Marion piggyback ramp in the 70's, used mostly for UPS > traffic" > > I need to clear up some misinformation. Yes, the Marion Industrial Center, > which was ONE of TWO GSA facilities in Marion, is the new intermodal > facility....However, this site was NOT used ever by the EL. This GSA area, > or the "depot" as it's known here in Marion, is on the south side of the > Erie/NYC trackage and was thusly served solely by the NYC and PC. The > other GSA facility, known locally as the "ordinance plant" was on the > north side of the track and was served by the Erie/EL from a facing point > connection east of Madison Avenue which crossed Fairground Street and went > north into the ordinance plant area, and the Pennsylvania (now, the NS) > railroads whose connecting spur came from the far north end near Likens > Road and went southward into the ordinance area. The two railroads shared > a wye near the site of the current UPS facility. UPS purchased some of > this GSA property for their operations and thus was born the EL piggyback > ramp. Part of the joint operating agreement for the trackage between > Galion and Marion between the Erie/EL and NYC/PC was that the Erie served > all customers on the north side and the NYC serviced all on the south > side. > > Hope this helps clear up the misunderstandings.... > > Rich Tubbs > Marion OH > Former EL Tower Operator > > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org ------------------------------
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