[From: Ken & Carol Dabisch <mailto:dabisch1_@_concentric.net> dabisch1_@_concentric.net I'd like to model Erie piggyback trailers as shown in Morning Sun's "Erie RR in color", page 101...The latest issue of Model RR'er, p. 12, shows a Sylvan Scale Models 34' trailer that looks similar, but the vertical ribbing does not extend around the front as in the photo in "Erie RR in color". What color were these painted? ...Several years back, Walthers made a 32' Erie trailer. Were these close to correct for anything the Erie had?] There are Listers more technically and historically savvy than I. With that said, Walthers back in, I believe, 1992 released 75' TTX flats lettered for Erie (#7589) with a stenciled built date of 1-55. Along with this, they offered separate packs of Erie trailers. They were pretty much the right color (a gray-green like the light color on the through cars). They were flat sided, however, and all photos I have seen showed ribbed trailers. But the Erie logo and lettering were pretty accurate. The Erie did have fifty 75' flats numbered 7550-7599. Coincidentally, my next project is to get out the ones I bought and make an Erie pig train. My philosophy? - I'm going to weather the trailers and the flats and make my pig train, because I don't have the time to custom make a whole bunch of ribbed trailers and paint and letter them. I am going to mix in some other trailers besides the Erie ones to give a sense of life's lack of neatness. To this end, I was toying with the notion of even throwing in one reefer trailer I have. I contacted Lister Paul Brezicki offlist re this usage and his response deserves to be pasted here: "I'm much more familiar with EL than Erie/DL&W. Refrigerated TOFC didn't become common until the 1960's; prior to that, carload was the norm for perishables. I have seen photos of 35' reefer trailers in piggyback service from the late 1950's, including those of SP, MP and some truckers, but nothing on the Erie. Having said that, it's quite possible it did occur, but it would have been quite limited. Most of EL's refrigerated TOFC was EB meat received from connections in Chicago, but TOFC interchange with western lines was limited in the 1950's. Compromises are almost always part of modelling if one wants to model lots of whole trains and not just individual cars. Just renumbering all but one of these flats will be work enough for me! One historical tidbit comes to mind. A friend of mine worked a summer job in Croxton in the Fifties. He told me once that a big headache with the Erie piggyback operation was that some customers would bring the Erie trailers back having replaced the good Erie tires with junkies. Joe The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org ------------------------------
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