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Re: (erielack) PV Line Industrial Question - Hours of Crossing Protection in Hackensack

In timetable 57 Oct 26 1958, the Hours of Protection on the NJ & NY in 
Hackensack were were 6:15 -9:15 AM, and 3;15 - 8:15 PM Monday - Friday 
and at Essex and Passaic, Poplar and Main 6:15 - 7;30 AM and 12:30/45 - 
6:15/30 PM on Saturday.

Washington  Street, Westwood was 15 minutes earlier on M-F AM and 
 Central Ave Pearl River 30 minutes earlier.

There was one second class train 672/671 on Saturday btween Spring 
Valley and North Hackensack only besides two passenger in each direction.

bob gillis

Gordon Davids wrote:

>>>
> Ken -
>
> In my timetables from 1957 and 1963, there is no mention of "Hours of 
> Crossing Protection" on the NY&NY RR.  The subject is covered in both 
> timetables for the Caldwell Branch, so it is not an omission for the 
> NJ&NY.  A logical conclusion is that the NJ&NY crossings were manned 
> continuously, at least as late as 1963.
>
> By 1967 the nine crossings in Hackensack, along with Washington Ave in 
> Westwood and Central Ave in Pearl River, were manned Mon-Sat with 
> split shifts for the commuter hours, so each crossing was manned eight 
> hours per day.  The crossing watchmen worked for the Maintenance of 
> Way Department.  While I was in Hoboken 1968-1970, we had a Supervisor 
> of Crossing Watchmen who reported to the Division Engineer.
>
> It seems wasteful by modern standards to keep a crossing watchman on 
> duty for a shift that might never see a train, but there was another 
> factor involved (e.g. pre-1967).  I don't recall the specific 
> arrangement on the Erie or the Lackawanna, but I know it was common 
> practice to assign employees who had been injured or disabled on duty 
> to crossing watchman jobs.  The D&H agreement stated that employes 
> disabled in the Company's service were to be placed on the roster for 
> crossing watchmen with seniority ahead of the oldest able-bodied 
> employee.  At least into the 1950's it could well have been the policy 
> that it was better to keep these employes working the crossings than 
> to pay them off to stay home.
>
> Gordon Davids
> <<
> Subject: Re: (erielack) PV Line Industrial Question
>
> Back in the days when the Pascack Valley Line/N.J. & N.Y. R.R. had 
> manually-operated crossing gates at various Hackensack street 
> crossings which, I suspect, were operated for morning & evening 
> passenger trains.  Were there operators on duty for freight trains?  
> If not were crews required to flag the crossings?
>
> Ken Bush
>
>
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