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RE: (erielack) Re: April Fools

Perhaps our 'friends at CP Rail just want more subsidies. Hey, most 
corporations have figured the way to really get superprofits is to slurp, 
slurp, slurp at the public trough.
       If memory serves me correctly, the Roman viaduct at Nimes, France is 
still in existence & it's been there for what, 2,000 or so years. The DL&W 
built at least as well.
Regards,
Walt Smith


>From: "Bill K." <pontiac_@_dreamscape.com>
>Reply-To: "Bill K." <pontiac_@_dreamscape.com>
>To: <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
>Subject: (erielack) Re: April Fools
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:57:48 -0400
>
>
>What gives this away is mentioning the O&W route before the former D&H
>route, plus the fact that it costs something like a million dollars or more
>per-mile to reconstruct a line on an abandoned ROW that's in good shape.
>How far is it from Binhgamton to Scranton - 65 miles?
>
>You aught to be able to repair the bridge for that kind of money, and CP is
>the same road that constructed some expensive and long tunnels in the
>rockies - they could do it, it's just a matter of wether or not the traffic
>justifies it.  I'd imagine if they got the state and NS involved, it would
>get repaired, unless it actually collapsed.
>
>Probably the most logical alternative were the DL&W route need to be 
>closed,
>you'd see them upgrade the former LV from Sayre to the south.  Maybe
>reinstall enough of the Owego branch to make it easy for trains to come off
>the Erie and go south/RR east, too.   There are a couple tunnels that might
>need the floors lowered for stacks, but it would be a lot cheaper than
>building new even if the Reading & Northern had to be bought out of their
>portion of the line.  If for no other reason than, it's still there and
>still more or less in service.
>
>
>There's a vintage poured concrete bridge in Herkimer NY, that dates back
>just as long, has not been used in probably 40 years at least and you can't
>even get out onto it anymore.  I think it was once a trolley route, as it's
>too narrow to have been used by Route 5.  It shows a lot of crumbling edges
>but is in no danger of collapse.  Something tells me there's nothing to
>worry about at Nicholson, at least not in our lifetimes.
>
>
>Bill K.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "EL Mail List Digest" <erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:33 AM
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> > >From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> > Message-ID: <003101c65641$1f274c90$7a01a8c0_@_paul>
> > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 06:35:11 -0400
> > From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: (erielack) CPR Looking for Alternatives in Key Pennsylvania 
>Route
> >
> > On the 30th anniversary of the EL's demise, it's sad to read that the 
>days
> > of one of it's landmark structures may be numbered. Coincidentally 
>there's
>a
> > 2 page contemporary photo of it in May "Trains" which arrived yesterday,
>and
> > it looks like it could use some maintenance. I wonder how much of a 
>factor
> > the "uneven wear" caused by the off-center track has been. You'd think
>they
> > would have considered that when the route was singled in the 60's;
>obviously
> > it would have been OOS for a week or two, but trains could have detoured
>on
> > the D&H (like they did after the 1974 Factoryville tunnel collapse), a
>route
> > being considered as an alternative. Or was this another case of ex-Erie
> > folks regarding all things DL&W as expendable? It appears that this
>superbly
> > engineered route will eventually join the NJ cutoff in oblivion.
> >
> > Paul B
> >
> > From: Joshua <elsdp45_@_yahoo.com>
> > Subject: (erielack) FWD:  CPR Looking for Alternatives in Key 
>Pennsylvania
> > Route
> >
> > Albany, NY
> >
> > Facing structural concerns with a major bridge,
> > Canadian Pacific Railway is seeking alternatives on
> > its key route to crucial Harrisburg and Philadelphia
> > markets.  This historical Nicholson Viaduct, also
> > called the Tunkhannock Creek Viaduct was completed in
> > 1915 by the DL&W Railroad.  When it was completed the
> > 2,375 long, 240' high bridge was the largest concrete
> > bridge in the world, and remains one the longest
> > today.  Now, nearing one hundred years since its
> > construction, there are serious concerns over the
> > condition of the bridge.  Formerly double tracked, the
> > single track remaining is off center and creating
> > uneven wear.  A spring project will see the realigned
> > to the center.  Although constantly monitored and
> > inspected, the decay of the bridge has rapidly
> > accelerated in recent years forcing CPR to consider an
> > alternate route, as construction of a new bridge would
> > be cost prohibitive.  One alternative is original
> > route of the railroad through the area, which today's
> > Pennsylvania State Route 11.  The state of
> > Pennsylvania is very interested in the preservation of
> > the bridge, and vehicular traffic would be much less
> > wear and tear.  Another alternative is rebuilding the
> > right of the way of the former New York, Ontario, and
> > Western between Sidney, NY and Carbondale, PA, but not
> > likely due to encroachment on the right of way.  The
> > most preferred alternative is rebuilding the original
> > route of CPR predecessor Delaware & Hudson Railway
> > between Nineveh and Carbondale, PA.  With a few minor
> > exceptions, much of the original right of way remains
> > intact.  CPR employees and surveying firms are in the
> > midst of inspecting the route.
> >
> >
> >
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