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Re: (erielack) commuter train engines
- Subject: Re: (erielack) commuter train engines
- From: ELRRco_@_aol.com
- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:23:02 EST
K A and Group,
The CNJ GP40P units were purchased by the B&O, who controlled the CNJ
through the Reading, and as a close affiliate of the C&O, the B&O was the one in
that chain who had enough money for the State of NJ to come after to invest in
the service. The GP40Ps replaced CNJ's Trainmasters, which EMD supposedly
wanted to replace with SDP40s riding on trade-in TM trucks. Now, I'm not sure
how true that was, but it would have made for an interesting locomotive, but
supposedly B&O nixed it because with the TM trucks, they could not blend in
with the regular B&O fleet.
I don't believe the GP40Ps were ever owned by Conrail and were passed
directly to NJDOT/NJ Transit, but I will say the same source that contributed the
direct ownership of these units by Chessie/B&O suggested that CR used several
EL E8s in Boston commuter service--which I have not yet substantiated.
The U34CH units were purchased by NJDOT for use on the EL lines and there is
a lot out there saying EL's preference in utilizing large units that could
double in freight service contributed to their acquisition. I don't know if
NJDOT and/or EL considered any other type of locomotives but it is an
interesting and unique choice of power--Amtrak's SDP40F and Metra F40Cs excluded.
Phil
ELRRco_@_AOL.com
In a message dated 3/23/2006 11:12:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
WellerK_@_aol.com writes:
If the state was subsidizing the purchase of commuter engines for EL and
CNJ,
why didn't the state buy the same type of engines for both railroads,
instead
of U34CH's for EL and GP40P's for CNJ? Were there operating reasons of some
sort? Perhaps it was because the state wasn't yet actually operating the
trains, just subsidizing the operations?
K A Weller
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