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Re: (erielack) Map Placement on EL Pullman Standard Cars
In answer to Michael's question, the operator was the E-L using
equipment and, probably, subsidy money provided by NJDOT. After the
first Comets & U34CH's were purchased by NJDOT, the Lackawanna electric
MU cars remained in service on the M & E Division, and a few trains made
up of ex-Santa Fe stainless steel coaches ran on the Pascack Valley
Line, pulled by E-L locomotives. It was not until a number of years
later that New Jersey Transit actually took over the operations.
Ken Bush
Michael Sheehy wrote:
> Interesting map, though it brings up more questions...
>
> Excuse me for failing to realize all this before, but I was only a little
> kid back then...
>
> The bottom of the map says
>
> ERIE LACKAWANNA RAILWAY COMPANY
> PASSENGER SERVICE SYSTEM
> STATE OF NEW JERSEY
>
> with the NJDOT and EL logos on it.
>
> So whose railroad was it? Was the NJDOT running it or EL? I was not the
> only one under the misconception when I was younger that the train running
> through my town was the Erie Lackawanna (hey it had the Diamond on it, along
> with the NJDOT Arrow symbol). My memories are after C-Day (say 1978 up
> through the NJ Transit advent in 1983) so I never remember seeing TRUE EL
> trains. Before NJT, what did the markings on the trains say on other lines
> in NJ from around 1970-1983? Penn Central? CNJ? I really didn't see
> passenger trains in NJ outside of the Pascack Valley and Main/Bergen Lines.
> I bring that up because the map includes ONLY lines that were used by EL (no
> Penn Line, Raritan Line, Coast Line, etc). Did the CNJ/ Penn Central, etc
> run these lines up through C-Day? Did they also get Comets and Arrows before
> NJT took over?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org
> [mailto:erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org]On Behalf Of Scott Lupia
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:57 PM
> To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Map Placement on EL Pullman Standard Cars
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> In case nobody has seen one before in living color, here it is.
>
> Scott
>
> RWisneski_@_njtransit.com wrote:
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>> Paul,
>>
>> Attached is a scan of a black and white photo, taken when cars were
>> brand new, shows a map on the side of the car, mounted over the access
>> cabinet door for the door control mechanism. That's Bill Herkner on the
>> far left in the photo. Hope it transmits ok.
>>
>> Rich Wisneski
>> Denville, NJ
>>
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