Re:(erielack) More Cliff Dwellers

[Joe K <joesk_@_ix.netcom.com>]

At 08:44 AM 3/6/06,  Randy Brown wrote:
>Paul -- you will get many responses.  Here's one:
>
>There were two H&M "Tubes".  One ran from about Exchange Place, Jersey 
>City, to H&M Terminal, close to th World Trade Center site.  On the NJ 
>side, a tunnel branched northward to Hoboken.  The Erie station was on 
>this line, which terminated at the DL&W Hoboken station.  The second tube 
>under the Hudson branched off between Erie and Hoboken, went to 
>Christopher Street, Manhattan, and thence to 33rd Street, with stations at 
>9th, 14th, and 23rd Sts.
>
>H&M was a pioneer.  Backed by the Pennsylvania Railroad in the very early 
>1900s, it was PRR's first shot at a rail entrance to Manhattan.   It was 
>intended and designed to carry only passengers,  so used a smaller loading 
>gauge with narrower cars on standard gauge track.  It was an early 
>electrification -- 600V DC 3rd rail.

I don't believe the H&M had any connection to the Pennsylvania Railroad 
back at it's inception. An excellent history of the H&M and of the PRR 
tunnel to NYC can be found in "Rails Under the Mighty Hudson", by Brian 
Cudahy. A truly interesting read.

Joe K.



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