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Re: (erielack) Calendar time
Chuck and List
All the commuting by train wasn't done by M&E and NY Division men -- in the
late '50's and thru the closing of the DL&W Terminal in Downtown Buffalo on
30 June 1962 a locomotive engineer, George Spizzano, lived in Groveland
(where in late steam and early diesel days he had worked a Groveland
pusher). With the elimination of the Groveland pushers (trains were
apparently power to get up Groveland Hill or they doubled it) he bid in and
was awarded a daylight switcher at the Buffalo Passenger Station. He
commuted from Groveland or, usually, Mount Morris. Went home on #10, the
New York Mail, which left Buffalo about 5:00 PM daily except Sunday and came
back to work on the Westerner or some such train arriving in the early
morning well in time to let George give third trick a good relief. One of
his last assignments of the day would be to make up the train he would go
home on.
It was a mark of the DL&W (and later EL's) timlieness that George
could and did protect an assignment with no failure.
My own EL "commuting," albeit by freight, was at Binghamton where,
while working as a yard clerk but lacking a car in my college days, I would
get from Binghamton QD/Passenger station to and from East Binghamton BY via
transfer or pullers which always seemed to materialize at an appropriate
time.
M J Connor
>From: Charles_Walsh_@_Berlex.com
>Reply-To: Charles_Walsh_@_Berlex.com
>To: "Tom Beckett" <tabeckett_@_stny.rr.com>
>CC: erielack_@_lists.elhts.org, erielack-owner@lists.elhts.org
>Subject: Re: (erielack) Calendar time
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:02:48 -0500
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>Tom,
>
>I imagine that bad weather (i.e. snow/sleet) could make life miserable for
>a crew member with a long commute and short notice. I wonder if the
>engineer you speak of, in former times, could/would have used passenger
>service between Sayre and Hornell. I know that into the 80s and 90s there
>were a few EL/DL&W guys who worked with NJ Transit and who lived in the
>Poconos. I guess it's possible that they moved there later on, but they
>may have also been there since the 50s and 60s when you could "still get
>there" into NJ by train.
>
>I'm wondering how many members of this list commuted by train to their
>reporting point on the railroad.
>
>Chuck
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> "Tom Beckett"
> <tabeckett_@_stny.rr.
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> erielack-owner_@_list Subject:
> s.elhts.org Re: (erielack) Calendar
>time
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> 03/01/2006 11:45 AM
> Please respond to
> "Tom Beckett"
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>My guess would be anywhere in the NY/NJ metro area, and likely the Pocono
>region. I never really talked to anyone about that particular topic, but
>that would be the logical assumption. I know some of the guys up here
>commuted quite a distance. I knew an engineer who used to live in Sayre,
>Pa,
>and would make it to Hornell in record time on a two hour call. I know he
>was glad when CR made Gang Mills the crew point!!
>
>TAB
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Charles_Walsh_@_berlex.com>
>To: "Tom Beckett" <tabeckett_@_stny.rr.com>
>Cc: <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>; <erielack-owner@lists.elhts.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:29 AM
>Subject: Re: (erielack) Calendar time
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> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > I take it that means that up until Port Jervis was discontinued as a
>crew
> > change point that crew members would have had to commute to/from Port
> > Jervis. Any idea what kind of radius from where the crews might have
>come
> > from?
> >
> > Chuck
>
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