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RE: (erielack) Bridge Numbering of the DL&W in Pennsylvania



Mileposts follow:

0.0 Scranton 55.65 Scranton
3.58 Taylor 59.07 Nay Aug
6.90 Old Forge 63.07 Elmhurst
9.57 Pittston Jct. 66.24 Moscow
10.89 W. Pittston 68.01 Lehigh
17.56 Kingston 73.27 Gouldsboro
20.32 Plymouth Jct. 78.35 Tobyhanna
22.92 Hanover Yard 83.43 Pocono Summit
38.67 Hicks Ferry 85.72 Pocono
44.98 Berwick 92.81 Cresco
57.53 Bloomsburg 105.86 Stroudsburg
69.27 Danville 112.15 Slateford Jct.
82.52 Northumberland 113.25 Delaware River

> -----Original Message-----
> From: erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org
> [mailto:erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org]On Behalf Of
> Charles_Walsh_@_Berlex.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:47 AM
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> Gordon.Davids_@_fra.dot.gov;
> Pat_McKnight_@_nps.gov
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Bridge Numbering of the DL&W in Pennsylvania
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> Joshua,
> 
> Rough guesses here without the benefit of a timetable here in front of
> me...Scranton is roughly M.P. 131-132, Binghamton M.P. 199-200 (with
> Hoboken as M.P. 0).  I don't recall if the Bloomsburg Branch 
> mileposts were
> based from Scranton or Hoboken.  These mileages, of course, 
> are post NJ and
> Nicholson (PA) Cut-Offs.  The NJ Cut-Off (opened 1911) decreased the
> Hoboken-Buffalo mileage by 11 miles, the Nicholson Cut-Off 
> (opened 1915?)
> by about 4 miles.  I don't know if the bridge numbering 
> scheme preceded or
> followed the building of the Cut-Offs.
> 
> Chuck
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> Reading Co. bridges were numbered according to mileage from 
> the start of
> the division.  And there are other railroads that numbered 
> their bridges
> sequentially, like the NYO&W.  Any ideas on how to figure 
> what would be
> 60 miles from the tower/bridge either towards Binghamton, Hoboken, or
> Bloombsuburg?  What DL&W milepost is Scranton?
> 
> Joshua
> 
> > The initial question about why Bridge 60 is called Bridge 
> 60 has gotten
> me
> > looking into the archives and other resources at Steamtown. 
>  While I have
> > not been able to find the "silver bullet" answer to this 
> question (a list
> > detailing each of the bridges from 1 to the last one) I 
> have found some
> > references to bridges.  One source I have found are 
> Bunnell's photos,
> where
> > he used the bridge numbering system.  He has photos of 
> bridges in and
> > around Scranton (60, 62, 64, 66, 67, and 68).  Bridge 79 is 
> listed as 2
> > miles east of Henryville, while bridges 81 and 82 are 
> listed "West of
> > Analomink".  I am sure a review of other photos by Bunnell 
> might turn up
> > other bridge numbers.
> >
> > In addition to these photos we have engineers field books 
> dating from the
> > 1890s to the 1920s.  Many of them dealt with surveys and 
> work related to
> > the cut-off north of Scranton.  Bridges are noted in these 
> field books
> both
> > by bridge number and some by mileage.  Bridge 29, for 
> example is listed
> > near Alford, PA.
> >
> > It appears that the bridge numbering system was done in the 
> early 1900s,
> > perhaps as part of the initial assessment of the line by 
> the Truesdale
> > administration.  I suppose it made more sense numbering the 
> bridges than
> > using their location on the main line since it appears 
> there were plans
> to
> > improve the line, thus changing the mileage.  I predict 
> other parts of
> the
> > DL&W had similar bridge numbering systems.  The only reason we know
> Bridge
> > 60 is called Bridge 60 is because the tower kept the name, 
> thus spurring
> > the current interest.
> >
> > It would be an interesting research project to come up with 
> a list and
> > location of the bridges.  I wish I had the time.  If anyone 
> would like to
> > come to Steamtown and do the research, I think we have the 
> information
> > buried in our archives.
> >
> > Patrick McKnight
> > Historian/Archivist
> > Steamtown NHS
> > 570-340-5193
> >
> > We need history, not to tell us what happened or to explain 
> the past, but
> > to make the past alive so that it can explain us and make a future
> > possible.-Alan Bloom
> >
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