Re: (erielack) Operations of CNJ-EL SE-98/ES-99 (and power)

["Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>]

Better watch what you're calling junk, Paul, you'll be getting flack from
some of the Alcophiles on the list! Interesting theory on the motive power,
however since the power ran through, whatever you sent out on SE-98 would
come back on the next day's ES-99. Unless they ran light engines between
E'port and Croxton via the National Docks, which I don't think they did.
Power was an unlikely issue with the westbound move as it was mostly
empties. More likely they used the "junk" if available, since they wouldn't
have wanted their best power laying over at E'port for half a day if they
could help it.

The pig traffic issue is intriguing. CNJ opened Portside in 1972 and
promoted it as container-friendly, both because of it's dray-saving
proximity to the containerport and their willingness to handle the boxes
without chassis (not a sure thing in 1972). They interchanged with EL and LV
as well as RDG, but evidently at least with EL it was not a regular
occurence. That ES-99 with a half-dozen TTX's was shot in July'75; it's hard
to tell but I think at least some of them are ISO boxes on chassis.

Paul B

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" <paultup_@_lucent.com>
To: <Dlw1el2_@_aol.com>; <doctorpb@bellsouth.net>;
<erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: (erielack) Operations of CNJ-EL SE-98/ES-99 (and power)


> > Questions for Bob: did the SE/ES trains generally carry
> > intermodal, and  if
> > so, was it all containers or was there some trailer traffic
> > as well?  Also,
> > did CNJ preblock ES-99 for Bison, Meadville and Marion, or
> > did EL  have to
> > completely reclassify this train at  Scranton?
> >
> > Paul
> > I don't ever remember any intermodal traffic on 99/98.
> > The blocking I can't answer.  Sorry.
> >
> > Bob
>
>
>
> Looking through all my photos (I have 65 shots of ES-99 and SE-98, spread
out between 1972 and 1976):
>
> I have several shots that show one or two 89' flats with two trailers a
piece on them near the head of a train; another shot shows at least six
piggyback cars head out, fully loaded. Based on the dates of the photos, it
looks like whatever piggyback traffic was left from the short-lived
NE-100/NE-99 piggyback runthroughs was put on the SE/ES trains.   Another
thing I notice is that a lot of the trains tended to have CNJ (or LNE!)
covered hoppers - in both directions.
>
> The ilmenite cars Bob spoke of usually were a group of about 7-8 D&H cars
(see http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/dh/dh-hk223agd.jpg for a photo of one)
tacked on to the front or back of a train (I assume for easy setout).
>
> Also looking through the photos - the VAST majority of the trains used
SD45s-and-variants and U33C/U36C for motive power. Other EL motive power
appeared on a very infrequent basis - I only have a photo of EL 2585 on an
ES-99, but SE-98 seemed to have some more "junk" power on there - F-units,
Alco Centurys and GP7s have all appeared on the eastbound run. Could that be
because they often got pushed out of Scranton, and the rest of the run was
almost all downhill after you topped the Poconos? And the big six-axle power
was needed for the westbounds to make it to Pocono Summit without pushers?
>
> - Paul


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