I'm sure this limited siding capy caused long delays, as trains would need to wait at Port Morris or the vicinity of East Stroudsburg if neither would clear at Greendell. The freight speed limit systemwide was lowered to 50mph from 60 after the Lake Cities was dc'd in Jan 1970, although I've read that the TOFC trains were permitted somewhat higher speeds in certain locations (55mph? can anyone confirm?). I'm guessing the siding limit was much lower, maybe 25mph. Paul B I'm curious why Greendell siding was shortened by the EL sometime in the early- to mid-60s, and whether this presented problems later on in the 1970s when traffic was shifted over to the Scranton side. Trains of 150 cars were not uncommon later on. Also, I wonder what the speed limit was through the siding. I believe freights were restricted to 50 mph on the Cut-Off, at least in later years, but I wonder what the condition of the siding actually was and what the speed limit through the switches on either end of the siding was...visually they looked like No. 24 (I'm guessing), but I'm wondering if anyone knows for sure. Chuck The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org ------------------------------
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