NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser: http://lists.elhts.org/listthumb.cgi?erielack-09-02-05 bigmapJGfinal2.jpg (image/jpeg, 1050x1195 184708 bytes, BF: 6.79 ppb) As to get my mind off of those terrible scenes from Louisiana and Mississippi, I've spent the evening researching Gordy and Russell's comments about the map from Paul that I've embelished a bit. I got out a US Geo Survey map and the pic in Erie Power of the 401 turning pigs at BR Tower. OK, I see the Marion interchange track bridging over the High Line. But the High Line is really the track on the left, as the 401 is on the Greenwood Lake lead -- therefore, I corrected the map such that the track from BR to the Lake Loop is north of the High Line, not south as I had it. Seems to now agree with Henderson's description of the panel at Erie Grove St. Tower (in 4 Great Divisions). Also added the NJ Connecting RR track thru Hoboken, with the PC Nave connector from around 1970, and the Conrail connector from the Erie Tunnel to the National Docks line, circa 1980. The relative altitude of all those lines there is tricky. The Erie / EL elevation leading to the Archways would be the highest, but that may have been gone by the time that the Conrail connector from the tunnel was built (which is at the lowest level; the PC/CR National Docks line is in the middle). Interesting perspective on why the PC wanted the NYS&W -- as the most direct way to connect the West Shore line and Meadows (S. Kearny Yard). I recall being told by the late Paul Butterworth, EL Tower Operator, that immediately after the PC merger the PC started running freights between Meadows and Weehawken / Selkirk using a run-around move at Waldo, then backing south onto the Docks (before the direct connection was built), then running north. If that's true, then they had to cross over the PATH at Waldo Tower, which must have been a hairy move. IIRC, they seperated the PATH from the PC freight lines a few years later; so that move could no longer be made. I've stayed up way too late on this, but luckily I'm taking the train to work tomorrow (Boonton Line, so back on topic). Hope to catch up on some sleep and save some fuel during my commute. Jim G. The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org ------------------------------ End of EL List Daily V3 #1761 *****************************
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