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Re: (erielack) Northern Trains Reverse Move



Russ writes:

>My employees TT for April 30 1961 still shows one of the three Northern 
>branch trains each way still stopping at Susquehanna Transfer. For the 
>others, the first stop was Ridgefield.
>  In the April 27, 1958 TT,  There were  three Northern round trips; of 
>which two inbound and one outbound stopped at Susq. Tranfer.  There were 

The Northern's use of the Transfer depended upon the NYS&W schedule -- which was steadily siminishing at the time.

>Surprisingly one NYSW train (number 21 leaving JC at 9:12 am did not stop at 
>the Transfer.  Maybe a mail train.

Equipment move from Train 960 and 962 -- which were eastbound-only Saturday runs with no westbound counterparts. All US Mail (not to mention Railway Express) disappeared from Jersey City when the Erie first moved over to Hoboken -- including on the NYS&W.

BTW -- The NYS&W also tried to use RDCs on the two Saturday Butler trains -- they did it for two weeks -- until the Erie decreed that they would refuse any train whatoever using RDCs (even though the NYS&W trains were the only user of the Jersey City Terminal on Saturdays). 

The Northern moved to Hoboken the Monday after the end of Jersey City ferry service. The NYS&W was then alone at Jersey City for more than a year.

>
> The Northern trains also stopped at Susquehanna Transfer.  Was it possible 
> to get off a Susquehanna train at ST and then take a Northern train into 
> Hoboken?

Not bloody likely. I know I tried <g>. The Northern trains rarely -- if ever -- stopped during the last few years. This was also not a stop for tariff purposes. Crews were not permitted to allow NYS&W passengers (or anyone else) to board at the Transfer, nor to let folk off in the evening.  

Some fans were known to sneak on -- but the fare would be cut from Ridgefield or Fairview.

Of course, there was that time the Northern smacked into a truck at Babbitt -- and the Northern riders piled off and squeezed into the NYS&W train to the Transfer, with the Erie conductor runing after then "That train doesn;t go to Jersey City!!! It only goes to the Transfer!!!" but people wanted to get to work, not spend the morning waiting for a crane to dislodge the wreckage of the truck and the RS3 -- wedged together under the West Shore bridge. One can easily fix the exact date -- that was the same day the PRR quit Exchange Place.

Cheers,
Jim Guthrie

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