Re: (erielack) Operations: EL in the 60's (2)

["Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>]

Sheer carelessness on their part. Marion was a 3-way interchange for Erie, PRR and Susie-Q, correct?

Paul B 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard Pennisi 
  To: Paul Brezicki ; Rich Behrendt ; Smtimko_@_aol.com ; erielack@lists.railfan.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:37 PM
  Subject: Re: (erielack) Operations: EL in the 60's (2)


  Paul,

  The same thing happened at EL Marion interchange with the PC (old PRR) in Jersey City by West End tower in New Jersey.  

  Cadillac stopped making convertables in 75 or 76 and PC EL crews placed tri levels on one of the tracks that wasn't lowered to accomodate tri levels.  The EL boys just started pulling and  made 30 brand new convertables when two carloads had the upper levels roofs sheared off.

  And of course no one could talk to each other because the radio frequencies weren't the same and in those days the radios didn't have other channels to turn too.  

  Rich Pennisi

  Paul Brezicki <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net> wrote:
    A bit off-content, but I recall in early 1971 hearing about a Penn Central
    train with autoracks detouring on the B&O in Ohio due to a derailment on PC.
    Evidently someone didn't check the clearance diagrams carefully enough, as
    the racks hit a low underpass, trashing about a million bucks worth of
    cadillacs.

    Paul B

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Rich Behrendt" 
    To: ; ;

    Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:10 PM
    Subject: Re: (erielack) Operations: EL in the 60's (2)


    > Steve,
    >
    > I thought the Erie connection at Kent was for a B&O e/b move only to
    proceed
    > e/b through the old yard and onto the Erie - wasn't aware that it actually
    > was for a w/b move in addition to or rather than an e/b (?)
    >
    > While going to college out there, I remember hearing Chessie TrailerJets
    > calling out on the radio 'Erie connection' when calling out signals became
    > common on the B&O starting in the late '70's/early 80's - unfortunately,
    > can't remember whether it was for e/b, w/b or both...
    >
    > Rich Behrendt
    > ELHS #384
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: 
    > To: ; 
    > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:43 AM
    > Subject: Re: (erielack) Operations: EL in the 60's
    >
    >
    > > Each EL Dispatching office had a large diagram of specific points where
    > > trains could be detoured via foreign roads in the event of a derailment.
    > >
    > > For instance, a derailment in Ravenna, OH on the EL could result in a
    > detour
    > > from Leavittsburg to Kent via B&O RR.
    > >
    > > This diagram sheet showed how the tracks of the connections were made
    > along
    > > with any restrictions or other information. It was noted in several
    > places
    > > on the Mahoning Division sheet that "Train will be reversed at this
    > point".
    > > One such point would be detouring via PRR from Corry, PA to Union City,
    > PA as
    > > #5 did on one occasion.
    > >
    > > SMT
    > >
    > >
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