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Re: (erielack) Blairstown
It was my understanding, at least during the late EL years and early
Conrail years, that through freights to/from Suffern and points west never
used the east end of the former DL&W Boonton line, but instead always
traversed the Bergen County line. This was supposedly due to the steep
grade and curvature of the connection from Paterson to the Boonton line.
So only locals and transfer runs would have regularly used the "new" connection.
Can anyone confirm this?
NJ Transit spent millions of $$ double-tracking and rebuilding this section within the last few years in preparation for opening Secaucus Jct.
Jim Dent
Jim Dent
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Brezicki <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
Date: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:34 am
Subject: Re: (erielack) Blairstown
> The east end of the Boonton line became part of the new mainline
> when a
> portion of the old Erie mainline was abandoned to eliminate street-
> runnungthrough Passaic. Assuming freights used this route also,
> then this "New
> Connection" between the Boonton line and the NY&GL should have
> seen constant
> use throughout the EL years. On p93 of EL in Color V3, a Paterson
> transferis seen on the "Old Greenwood Lake Loop" leaving Croxton.
> Is it going to
> make another sharp right turn to go up the ramp to the Boonton
> line, or or
> is it going to cross DB draw and reach Paterson via the Newark branch?
>
> Paul B
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" <paultup_@_lucent.com>
> To: "'Paul Brezicki'" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>; "EL Mailing List"
> <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:09 AM
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Blairstown
>
>
> > > Are we sure the Cutoff was CTC (TCS in EL parlance)? The
> > > Stroudsburg Op had
> > > to hoop orders; was that just for westbounds?
> >
> > The Cut-Off was TCS/CTC controlled by a small panel at Port
> Morris tower.
> Slateford was eventually remoted to East Stroudsburg Tower.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Here's another question. Prior to the 1963 incorporation of
> the Erie
> > > Greenwood Lake branch into the former DL&W main, was there
> > > any connection
> > > between the latter and Croxton Yd? I don't see any on maps of
> > > the area. So
> > > apparently until then, freights on the Scranton side had to
> > > continue to use
> > > DL&W's Hoboken yard until the Greenwood line was used.
> >
> > There was a connection made (prior to 1963, I believe) from the
> DL&W main
> (original Boonton Line) that came off just east of the Upper Hack lift
> bridge, parallelled the DL&W east all the while slowly dropping,
> and then
> when it reached the NY&GL into Croxton, it made a sharp 90-degree
> turn to
> the left and joined up with the NY&GL almost directly underneath
> the DL&W
> overpass, and that's how trains off the DL&W side got into
> Croxton. I think
> this connection was still used, albeit infrequently, after the 1963
> combination of Boonton Line/NY&GL. This track was here up until a
> few years
> ago, when construction of Secaucus Jct. obliterated the track.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Also
> > > where was the
> > > connection between Croxton and Hoboken eventually installed?
> >
> > I always wondered this myself. Can anyone answer this?
> >
> > - Paul
>
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