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Re: (erielack) Odd signal



Chuck,
To the best of my knowledge, which now is 35+ years old, the lower 
signal always displayed red and the upper had three aspects--red, 
yellow, green.  This fits in somewhat with the discussion of the block 
length, since it appears that the signals which protected the bridge 
were also block signals.  That means that the block length probably was 
fudged to fit the need for the signals at the bridge.  Perhaps someone 
with a signal chart from the 1960's could advise definitively what red 
over red meant, but I believe that it was an absolute stop, lest one 
take the plunge, either off the rail because of the derail or into the 
drink. 

Also, the eastbound signal protecting the Passaic River bridge was just 
east of the Passaic Park station, M.P. 10.7.  The next block signal east 
was at the north end of the Carlton Hill station (pre-abandonment of the 
Main Line through downtown Passaic), M.P. 11.3.  Assuming that the 
signal at Passaic Park were a block signal also, that made the block 
between Passaic Park and Carlton Hill about .6 mile, or maybe a few feet 
longer.  If I recall, the next eastbound block signal west of  Passaic 
Park was east of downtown Passaic, perhaps M.P. 12.3 or so--my memory 
fails me on the street names.


Ken Bush

Charles_Walsh_@_berlex.com wrote:

>Ken,
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>I'm curious, if you recall, did the lower signal always display red?  And
>how many aspects did the upper signal have?
>
>Chuck
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>                      erie910                                                                                                      
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>                      m>                  To:     Michael Sheehy <njnyrr_@_optonline.net>                                            
>                      Sent by:            cc:     Hank Sundermeyer <sunderhj_@_att.net>                                              
>                      erielack-owner_@_list         "Paul R. Tupaczewski" <paultup@optonline.net>                                    
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>These appear to be the signals which protected the bridge over the
>Passaic River between Passaic Park and Carlton Hill.  There were two
>signal heads on a mast, and the bottom had the green blanked out.
>
>Ken Bush
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>Michael Sheehy wrote:
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>>I believe there is one just north of the Pearl River, NY station.
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org
>>[mailto:erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org]On Behalf Of Hank Sundermeyer
>>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:02 PM
>>To: Paul R. Tupaczewski; erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
>>Subject: Re: (erielack) Odd signal
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>>Hi, Paul
>>
>>The triangle tricolors existed on the NY Division as well.  If you look in
>>your EL in Color volumes, you'll find a shot in Passaic with one, also I
>>believe they existed on the signal bridges on the passenger mainline
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>segment
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>>that ran in between croxton yard and the DLW Boonton main.
>>
>>Hank
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Paul R. Tupaczewski" <paultup_@_optonline.net>
>>To: <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
>>Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:40 PM
>>Subject: (erielack) Odd signal
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>>>Was going through some more photos today, and found an EL freight
>>>train passing the signal in the attached image.  The image is somewhere
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>>>New York's Southern Tier, I believe. How many of these
>>>triangle-shaped-indication signal heads did they have? Were these the
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>>>ones? (there's another on the opposite side of the track, facing the
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>>>- Paul
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