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(erielack) Logos - and "What if?"
Henry,
There's no doubt that the EL logo was essentially the Erie logo with minor
modifications, which was more or less representative of the merger itself.
To a lesser extent, this is what happened in the Penn-Central merger.
Although, the big difference between the two mergers is that nearly 50% of
the DL&W's mainline was either downgraded or completely eliminated, whereas
NYC's stayed basically intact. It's interesting to speculate in a "what
if" scenario that if DL&W had been able to merge with a more
compatible--and friendly--partner such as the Nickel Plate, a merger that
had it taken place would have probably been done back in the mid-1950s
rather than later. It would also be interesting to speculate about what
would have happened to the Erie's trackage had the DL&W merged with the
NKP, and what would have survived, or not survived, into Conrail and
present times. The railroad atlas would definitely look different today.
Chuck
"J. Henry Priebe
Jr."
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"J. Henry Priebe
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
>
> I'm a bit late getting in on this (been pretty busy) but first of all, I
think Dan Biernacki's
> analysis of the ERIE diamond is right on the mark . . So to speak, no pun
intended.
>
> It has a much longer history with the railroad than the 1920's as someone
speculated. It's in paper
> items for the ERIE well back into the 1880's, and there's a school of
thought that it came
> originally from one of the earliest passenger cars, the (working from
memory here . . . ) the Moth's
> Patent Car. The side was structured with a lattice of diagonal steel
bars, and the windows were
> diamond shaped openings between the bars. The car's covered in the John
White book, American
> Railroad Passenger Cars, for those who want to look in to that.
Here's the Erie diamond on the still-standing Akron, OH freight house which
I
shot yesterday around noon. The E in the diamond certainly wasn't anything
new when the EL was formed. The logo is a testament to the Erie's
"takeover"
of the DL&W and the only contribution the Lackawanna made to the new logo
was
the color and two small missing sections of the "E!"
Henry
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