Not having been on the list for all that long, I don't know if this piece of equipment in GMY has ever been discussed. It's supposedly an F9, and I've e-mailed the railroad for some history. http://www.michiganstarclipper.com/picture1.gif Ken Bush The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org ------------------------------