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Re: (erielack) EL Motive power arrangements

I believe that NJDOT purchased the trainsets for the EL (and CNJ) to 
use.  NJDOT used the black & silver scheme to keep them visibly 
different than railroad-owned equipment.  If NJDOT equipment were moved 
from one railroad to another, it was a simpler matter to remove the 
small railroad identification on the engines and equipment than to 
repaint the entire engine.

The museum for which I volunteer has a number of the stainless steel 
coaches which NJDOT bought from the Santa Fe for commuter service on the 
EL & CNJ.  The only railroad identification was a small logo, one on 
each side of the car, which was fairly easily removed.


Ken Bush

Joel Long wrote:

> Paul
>
>If the EL ran this service and the units were dedicated to this service.
>Why were the units painted in the Black and Silver Scheme instead of GMY or
>some other scheme?  Joel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul) [mailto:paultup_@_lucent.com] 
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:21 AM
>To: 'Joel Long'; erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
>Subject: RE: (erielack) EL Motive power arrangements
>
>  
>
>>Are there any NJT guys on the list that remember showing up Monday 
>>morning and their Power gone?  I am sure NJT Dispatchers were pealing 
>>some paint yelling at the EL.
>>I sure would like to hear their version.  
>>    
>>
>
>
>For clarification, "NJ Transit" didn't exist before 1980 (I believe that's
>the year). EL ran all passenger operations, and after EL, Conrail ran the
>passenger service. The operation was all VERY heavily subsidized by the
>State, however. The State finally took over all passenger operations with
>the formation of NJ Transit.
>
>I'm sure Art Erdman could share stories about this, since he was dispatching
>at that time, but I think it would be the EL dispatchers yelling at the guys
>in Croxton who "stole" the units for the weekend (and I'm sure the State was
>contacting those dispatchers asking them where the units they paid for
>were!)
>
>
>
>  
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>>Paul from what
>>your saying I take it the GP-7's they used could not handle these cars 
>>either.  I would assume that if the U34CHs were not back there was no 
>>power anywhere to be found.
>>    
>>
>
>Exactly!
>
>
>  
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>>Just think how much we like some
>>Monday's.  No power
>>No Trains Commuters stranded everywhere.  Everyone scrambling.  
>>Yikes!!
>>    
>>
>
>And that's the reason the practice was stopped.
>
>	- Paul
>
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